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you haven't refuted anything
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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Because the past two pages have already been multiple people refuting it LMAO
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Dude.. Nobody has refuted anything..
Zeinx1
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We told them that what they were saying was wrong and refuted their possible rebuttals.
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no one has offered a proper rebuttal
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Am I wrong?
I should also point out that Zeref himself stated that Acnologia could torture him forever heavily implying that Zeref has no way of defeating him.
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Why is this a discussion
But hey at least it keeps this place alive
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Some just disagree with Acno > Zeref and otherwise for some reason
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no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.
No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.
Why are y'all ignoring the narrative. Narratively Zeref couldn't kill Acnologia. If he could just pop up and do it, it would of been easy. Irene would of instead brought Acnologia to Zeref with universe one. Acnologia either resists his death shit or his magic attacks overpower it. Either basically says, Zeref ain't winning. Zeref lost to Natsu and Acnologia was confirmed to be the strongest character.
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Feats don't supersede direct, continued statements made by the author. If the author said that Acnologia is above Zeref, then as the person who is illustrating and writing these characters, should have higher importance in these characters strength compared to our own personal opinions. We can have opinions on who would win in a fight, or who is ultimately stronger than another when we're left to our own interpretations of the series, when we are working upon similarly probable claims. But when the author himself is explicitly stating the strength of his characters, we have to accept them as fact.
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Feat > statement is pretty crazy in this context because Zeref doesn't have any feats that put him over Acnologia 
. The only time feat > statement is if you can find an example of said statement being bs that's unexplainable. Zeref doesn't even have that luxury his only feat is being above August and Irene lol
. The only time feat > statement is if you can find an example of said statement being bs that's unexplainable. Zeref doesn't even have that luxury his only feat is being above August and Irene lol
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Prove where he said that.
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This is probably something said because it curses Zeref's fate. Calling it a curse is pretty ridiculous.
No exception to such a thing is stated anywhere. If you want, let's ask the person who makes my FT profiles here about this?
And if you think Acno's magic resistance is conflicting please open a crt to lower it, I'm talking based on the gives in the profiles
I also agree with Deceived here.
Zeinx1
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Zeref>Acnologia btw
Acnologia either resists his death shit or his magic attacks overpower it. Either basically says, Zeref ain't winning. Zeref lost to Natsu and Acnologia was confirmed to be the strongest character.
Prove that Acnologia can withstand death resistance.
You talk as if Acnologia is undefeated
?Just because acnologia is said so by the author doesn't mean acnologia is really the strongest. feat > author statement.
Prove it has resistance with Anksheram, I'm curious + I can count many more wincons, I can only say this
Acnologia (midlogia) cannot yet overcome the middle divinity of Base Zeref.
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I don't know if anyone is missing something, but by the standards on this wiki Acno one taps Zeref
Zeinx1
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Dude, in-universe feats are more important than the author's statement because the author says this in an interview outside the series, not in the series, so I don't know if this can actually even be taken as canon (maybe statement > that author statement) anyway, as I said, the events in the series are more important than the author's statement. example: anksheram, neoeclipse.
Zeinx1
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Yeah there is no such thing as anksheram neo eclipse mid godly immo8 is thereFeat > statement is pretty crazy in this context because Zeref doesn't have any feats that put him over Acnologia
?. feat>statement because in the series we can provide zeref as superior to that and that would be a contradiction. Zeref's feat is to be superior to the universe, man...
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Btw I see this argument used quite a lot but even Zeref himself is afraid of Acnologia and says he can't defeat it
Acno is a source of fear for humanity and even Zeref.
Zeinx1
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That's the curse, man, it's in the show, you can look anywhere you want, you can even look in the wiki.
I advise you to study it properly.
We're just talking here, that magic resistance thing is completely wrong and contradictory.
There is an attack with a magic power called fairy sphere and yes it works on acnologia, it's completely contradictory.
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The reason why this base zeref got a fairy heart is because he wants to restart the universe. As soon as he gets the fairy heart, zeref becomes superior to the space-time of this universe.Btw I see this argument used quite a lot but even Zeref himself is afraid of Acnologia and says he can't defeat it
Acno is a source of fear for humanity and even Zeref.
Acnologia should be stronger than dragon gods first and then you can compare it with zeref
Zeinx1
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There are many wincons that Zeref can be superior to Acnologia, I have already explained them a little while ago, go and read them and then comment.Feat > statement is pretty crazy in this context because Zeref doesn't have any feats that put him over Acnologia
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?The reason why this base zeref got a fairy heart is because he wants to restart the universe. As soon as he gets the fairy heart, zeref becomes superior to the space-time of this universe.
Acnologia should be stronger than dragon gods first and then you can compare it with zeref
What are you talking about, you don't put your eyes aside and read what Zeref said, as if to defend yourself
Well, here's the situation then.
Zeref himself says that he cannot defeat Acno, immortality cannot give him an advantage.
Author Mashima confirms this and says that Acno is the strongest person in the universe.
And some random people claim that Zeref can defeat Acno based on their own assumptions.
Hmm I guess Acno slaps Zeref.
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Which wiki are you talking about? In this wiki, this feature is "magic".
Zeinx1
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Zeref himself doesn't say he can't defeat Acno. Zeref doesn't even enter a battle with Acnologia, he doesn't want Acnologia to come there because he wants to get the fairy heart.
Immortality is always an advantage if you have antifeat.
The author mashima contradicts, there are a lot of wincons in the universe that we can say zeref>.
It's interesting that we say Zeref > Acno and say wincons, but you couldn't tell anything. I mentioned a lot of wincons above, but you couldn't even give an answer.
Zeref slams
Zeinx1
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''black magic''
Ankhseram Black Magic
Ankhseram Black Magic (アンクセラムの黒魔術 Ankuseramu no Kuro Majutsu), also known as the Contradictory Curse (矛盾の呪い Mujun no Noroi),[1] is a Black Art that involves killing. It is a Black Art that allows its user to produce a black miasma that kills anything it touches.[2] However, certain Magic Items...
fairytail.fandom.com
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Zeref literally just said he would be his eternal toy lmfao this is hilarious
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Chapter 532 page 10
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I think I'ma call it in this debate
Zeinx1
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I looked at what you posted, but I wrote a message about it above, but here is something he said just to get neo eclipse.
The reason why this base zeref got a fairy heart is because he wants to restart the universe. As soon as he gets the fairy heart, zeref becomes superior to the space-time of this universe.
Acnologia should be stronger than dragon gods first and then you can compare it with zeref
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I think you have mental problems if you think that Zeref will not attack and will sit idle.
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Look I love Jellal and Zeref (Jellal being my most fav Fairy Tail character ever) but I know and its obvious Acnologia is STRONGER than Zeref.
Zeref stated himself Acnologia will win against him, even other characters stated Acnologia is the most strongest and this added with the author statement that Acnologia is strongest in OG series.
Zeref stated himself Acnologia will win against him, even other characters stated Acnologia is the most strongest and this added with the author statement that Acnologia is strongest in OG series.
Zeinx1
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Blud really thought it would happen like this
Zeinx1
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My friend, I have presented my evidence above and on the previous pages, I recommend you read it.
and feat > statement
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I did though there is some slight things I want to mention
In chapter 522 Zeref mentions to Gray that he needs Mavis' power (Fairy Heart) in order to kill Acnologia and he even said in his base he would lose horribly to Acnologia.
Also to ask what about Natsu's scarf made up of Igneel's scales, and Zeref's curse didn't affect Natsu due to the scales absorbing the curse and not affecting Natsu. Also not only that but the curse wouldn't affect a dragon. Since Zeref's miasma was shown to be blocked by Natsu's scarf which was made of Igneel's scale, meaning Acnologia's stronger scales might have protected Acnologia. Due to Acnologia one shot Igneel.
Fairy Tail Manga: Chapter 436, Pages 17-19 it stated where Zeref said Acnologia could rule the world with his power.
Also Natsu defeated Fairy Heart Zeref before fighting Acnologia (Post Neo Eclipse Gate) and struggled against him. Not only that but it took virtually everyone in the series to stop Acnologia by combining their magic and feelings into Natsu.
I recall Acnologia completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which is stated to be a concept and also completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which erases the existence of whatever is inside of it. Wouldn't that allow resistance to Zeref's Ankhseram Black Magic?
But then again I may be a dumbass.
In chapter 522 Zeref mentions to Gray that he needs Mavis' power (Fairy Heart) in order to kill Acnologia and he even said in his base he would lose horribly to Acnologia.
Also to ask what about Natsu's scarf made up of Igneel's scales, and Zeref's curse didn't affect Natsu due to the scales absorbing the curse and not affecting Natsu. Also not only that but the curse wouldn't affect a dragon. Since Zeref's miasma was shown to be blocked by Natsu's scarf which was made of Igneel's scale, meaning Acnologia's stronger scales might have protected Acnologia. Due to Acnologia one shot Igneel.
Fairy Tail Manga: Chapter 436, Pages 17-19 it stated where Zeref said Acnologia could rule the world with his power.
Also Natsu defeated Fairy Heart Zeref before fighting Acnologia (Post Neo Eclipse Gate) and struggled against him. Not only that but it took virtually everyone in the series to stop Acnologia by combining their magic and feelings into Natsu.
I recall Acnologia completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which is stated to be a concept and also completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which erases the existence of whatever is inside of it. Wouldn't that allow resistance to Zeref's Ankhseram Black Magic?
But then again I may be a dumbass.
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You need to prove that black magic is layered''black magic''
Ankhseram Black Magic
Ankhseram Black Magic (アンクセラムの黒魔術 Ankuseramu no Kuro Majutsu), also known as the Contradictory Curse (矛盾の呪い Mujun no Noroi),[1] is a Black Art that involves killing. It is a Black Art that allows its user to produce a black miasma that kills anything it touches.[2] However, certain Magic Items...
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Oh yeah, that's good enough evidence for the magic resistance thing.
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