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So what I'm hearing is that post-SBT Acno is either Low 2-C or has Acausality Type 4.
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So what I'm hearing is that post-SBT Acno is either Low 2-C or has Acausality Type 4.
If you want proof of acno, just look at the profile. If you don't know that superiority is a victory condition on this wiki, then I don't care, go do some research and find outProve it
I'm not saying that, I'm saying prove that you can resist Anksheram. In addition, if I have to answer the question of superiority, he is not superior, there is no situation where he can be superior.If you want proof of acno, just look at the profile. If you don't know that superiority is a victory condition on this wiki, then I don't care, go do some research and find out
no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.For this, superiority is enough
No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.Acno already has resistance to ankshream
He's really equating gray's ice magic with anksheram .I hope you will stop saying that acnologia can resist anksheram because this is really a nonsense..
You say vsb profile, it's not there, prove to me where this character resisted. you didn't even watch fairy tail final series (I know you didn't watch it because I know you from discord)
No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.
No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.
The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.I'm not saying that, I'm saying prove that you can resist Anksheram. In addition, if I have to answer the question of superiority, he is not superior, there is no situation where he can be superior.
Idc, Then you're misunderstanding(I know you didn't watch it because I know you from discord)
I don't think Acnologia is even resistant to magic.no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.
No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.
Anksheram is a curse, I proved to you that black magic and magic are not the same thing and that magic works on acnologia.No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.
The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.
Idc, Then you're misunderstanding
I don't think Acnologia is even resistant to magic.
Because there are so many contradictions in the series.
''ı guess the gods are really were angry at me and that's why they put this CURSE on me.'' Do you know what the curse means? you don't even know the context in which the word magic is used in the zeref profile.No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.
anksheram is a curse and the only evidence that acnologia will not work is that erza says that he will not be affected by the gray ice spell.The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.
''ı guess the gods are really were angry at me and that's why they put this CURSE on me.'' Do you know what the curse means? you don't even know the context in which the word magic is used in the zeref profile.
anksheram is a curse and the only evidence that acnologia will not work is that erza says that he will not be affected by the gray ice spell.
but we see that magic works on acnologia
frmy brother really looked like me 🗣
1-Zeref is reincarnated, not dead.Bruh the fact is Zeref is dead, and before he died he had no showing putting him above SBT Acnologia. No feats no nothing. He's packed and fodder.
my brother really thinks that zeref is dead and does not know that acnologia was not in sbt when zeref was aliveBruh the fact is Zeref is dead, and before he died he had no showing putting him above SBT Acnologia. No feats no nothing. He's packed and fodder.
The scenario would have been like this when Zeref was alive.my brother really thinks that zeref is dead and does not know that acnologia was not in sbt when zeref was alive
Yes. But if he hadn't waited and walked through that doorThe scenario would have been like this when Zeref was alive.
When Zeref activates the neo eclipse, he walks through the door and it's over.
Welcome to the new universe.
We call it a possible war with Acnologia.Yes. But if he hadn't waited and walked through that door
Yes, I agree, maybe Natsu beating him is what Zeref wants. The smile on his face when he is defeated supports thisWe call it a possible war with Acnologia.
We already know that Zeref is the smartest character in the series and that he will not hesitate.
In addition, if we have to say in the series, I think the reason for not resetting is this.
Let's not forget what Mavis said.
Maybe that's why he gave up resetting and fought Natsu.
Or it could be out of love for his brother because Zeref did everything for Natsu and even took Anksheram's curse because of him, he's really a very selfless brother.
I think so, too. Zeref's biggest dream was to die anyway, and for that he wanted Natsu to get stronger.Yes, I agree, maybe Natsu beating him is what Zeref wants. The smile on his face when he is defeated supports this
Okay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.1-Zeref is reincarnated, not dead.
2-While zeref was alive, acnologia wasn't even in sbt, he learned about the existence of sbt thanks to zeref.
3-Base zeref > Acnologia (I explained this above)
4-You call zeref a fodder but zeref is more dominant in sbt than acnologia funny.
no zeref crushes acno with immo 8 mid godly regen and anksheramOkay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.
Okay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.
Zeref wasn't even alive at the time. Zeref was the one who opened the SBT. And if Zeref had gone through the neo eclipse door with his plan. Fairy tail would have already been crushed under Zeref.
Zeref's master key also has a middle divinity, as we both know acnologia can't get through it, so acnologia can never kill zeref. But zeref can kill acnologia. And there is nothing acnologia can do against anksheram, one of zeref's haxes, even if it is said that acnologia can eat magic, it cannot be taken as a sufficient feat unless anksheram eats it and black magic = not magic.
Acnologia has no wincon against Zeref, if there was a battle between them Zeref would have won no diff according to vsb system.
Base Zeref will be enough for Acnologia.
I don't disagree with what you are saying I am saying that zeref will and can defeat acnologia.
It's not just neo eclipse, there are multiple wincons that zeref can provide to win against acnologia but acnologia doesn't even have one.
I just said one of them to mitch above
It doesn't matter if it is an author statement. feat > author statement is considered as
I could name more wincons.no zeref crushes acno with immo 8 mid godly regen and anksheram
even these 3 are enoughI could name more wincons.
We can answer them without reading the rebuttals mentioned first hmm we must be omniscient lol.I'm just not gonna respond to all that because I don't think you've read any of the refutations already mentioned for those things... It is just ad nauseam atp.
None of your arguments are defeaters is my point, you're just repeating the same thing when someone refutes it.We can answer them without reading the rebuttals mentioned first hmm we must be omniscient lol.
you haven't refuted anythingNone of your arguments are defeaters is my point, you're just repeating the same thing when someone refutes it.
Because the past two pages have already been multiple people refuting it LMAOyou haven't refuted anything
Dude.. Nobody has refuted anything..None of your arguments are defeaters is my point, you're just repeating the same thing when someone refutes it.
We told them that what they were saying was wrong and refuted their possible rebuttals.Because the past two pages have already been multiple people refuting it LMAO
no one has offered a proper rebuttalBecause the past two pages have already been multiple people refuting it LMAO
Am I wrong?My brother really said that lol...
I'm not saying that, I'm saying prove that you can resist Anksheram. In addition, if I have to answer the question of superiority, he is not superior, there is no situation where he can be superior.
no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.
No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.
Feats don't supersede direct, continued statements made by the author. If the author said that Acnologia is above Zeref, then as the person who is illustrating and writing these characters, should have higher importance in these characters strength compared to our own personal opinions. We can have opinions on who would win in a fight, or who is ultimately stronger than another when we're left to our own interpretations of the series, when we are working upon similarly probable claims. But when the author himself is explicitly stating the strength of his characters, we have to accept them as fact.It doesn't matter if it is an author statement. feat > author statement is considered as
Prove where he said that.Am I wrong?
I should also point out that Zeref himself stated that Acnologia could torture him forever heavily implying that Zeref has no way of defeating him.