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For the base state of zeref, he says "I cannot defeat acnologia even though I am immortal", which is why he gets a fairy heart, even Irene herself says that zeref will overcome acnologia.
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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It doesn't matter what you say, Hiro verbatim says Acnologia is stronger...
Zeinx1
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Zeref would never say that as soon as he gets the fairy heart, there is no point in comparing different keys.
if we need to get into the sbt thing, zeref has 100% control over the sbt, he can shut it down without even entering the sbt and acnologia can't even get out of it and zeref has infinite power over space and time. when acnologia absorbs the timeout, her body can't handle the power and the moment she enters the sbt he's split in two. Zeref can deal with her infinite superior power.
if we need to get into the sbt thing, zeref has 100% control over the sbt, he can shut it down without even entering the sbt and acnologia can't even get out of it and zeref has infinite power over space and time. when acnologia absorbs the timeout, her body can't handle the power and the moment she enters the sbt he's split in two. Zeref can deal with her infinite superior power.
Zeinx1
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We're just talking anyway..
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can you send the scan
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I'm just saying, it doesn't matter how you argue Zeref vs Acnologia, Hiro 100% confirmed Acnologia is stronger, which is entirely supported by the narrative...
Zeinx1
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If Zeref actually resets the timeline thanks to neo eclipse, "I think" Zeref will definitely win (but as I said, this is just my opinion)
Zeinx1
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Also Mitch, while you are here, can I apply my crt about updating cm2 profiles, I asked you again to look into this but you didn't.
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Zeref dragneel cm2 resistance addition and Mavis vermillion august gray silver cm2 removal
Mavis and other characters have a resistance of cm2 in their profile, but this would be wrong. The reason for giving cm2 resistance is that it is written that it should have the same resistance as Zeref, but Zeref's profile does not have cm2 resistance, it has cm2 Mavis cannot acquire a...
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Absolutely not.
It can never get l2c on zeref and normal sbt human acnologia is never stronger than fairy hearted zeref.
Because the reason why zeref gets l2c is because of neo eclipse, acnologia doesn't have enough conditions for neo eclipse and there is no way acnologia can be stronger than neo eclipse. If zeref had implemented the timeline reset with neo eclipse there probably wouldn't even be acnologia.
None of the characters in fairy tail have ap/dura in their profile because of neo eclipse, only zeref has ap. if Mavis could use sbt she would have it too.
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This doesn't really mean anything especially when we find out Zeref literally didn't....
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"It's is a possibility" not he will be stronger
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Saying that Zeref is stronger than Acnologia is like me saying I'm stronger than Mike Tyson because I have a shotgun.
Neo Eclipse doesn't scale to Zeref's stats in any way shape or form. Hell you can argue that it wouldn't even effect him since Acnologia is well over 400 years old, with Neo Eclipse only being able to revert 400 years exactly. So even with Neo Eclipse, Acnologia would still be around in the distant past since he's older than the amount of years Neo Eclipse is able to reset.
At best Zeref can hope for an incon.
Neo Eclipse doesn't scale to Zeref's stats in any way shape or form. Hell you can argue that it wouldn't even effect him since Acnologia is well over 400 years old, with Neo Eclipse only being able to revert 400 years exactly. So even with Neo Eclipse, Acnologia would still be around in the distant past since he's older than the amount of years Neo Eclipse is able to reset.
At best Zeref can hope for an incon.
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This doesn't mean much. It's just a possibility. And Zeref himself is not sure that he will defeat Acno. If I remember correctly, Acno himself denied this possibility... Also Narrator and Acno's statament > Irene's statament
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The ghost of the Uchiha against Fernandes
I thought this would be a very interesting comparison between two goats. Madara Uchiha VS Jellal Fernandes Battlefield: Today's World Both are equal Speed Forms to use: Dual Rinnegan+Rinne Sharingan | X793 Madara: Mamaroza Jellal: Incon:
Zeinx1
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No, no, no, no. Fairy heart zeref > pre-sbt acnologia is also mentioned on this vsb.
Zeinx1
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Zeref is stronger than pre sbt acnologia the moment he gets the fairy heart, man...
Zeinx1
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Dude, resetting this timeline goes back 400 years, 400 years ago acnologia was a doctor, lol only kid zeref is even taking oneshots at him...
Zeref defeats acnologia thanks to the neo eclipse..
Zeinx1
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It means a lot and that's how it's mentioned in vsb: zeref > pre sbt acnologia. And Zeref himself was sure that he was going to defeat Acno ever since he got his fairy heart form and he was going to end this whole world with the neo eclipse. And fairy heart has never encountered sbt acnologia with zeref, so everything you say remains inconsistent. (no one here says anything to what the author said, we are just talking among ourselves and according to our logic, it is already so if you take feat>statement, zeref>acnologia comes out)
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Ikaruga (Fairy Tail) Hax additions and Adding fire resistance to Erza
First of all, greetings. Here this character says that he cuts his enemy's clothes or flesh without cutting his nerves, which paralyzes his opponent and makes him unable to move: Paralysis Inducement 6.09-621 In addition, it can resist wind manipulation ''9:33-9:58'' Erza can resist fire...
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Well it is just wrong then lol
Zeinx1
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No it's not wrong lol
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A profile for Viernes from Fairy Tail
Hello, I felt the need to open this forum because I wanted a profile to be opened for Viernes, the only Dragon Gods who does not have a profile on the site. What distinguishes Viernes, apart from having the basic hax of dragons, is that he does not have a physical body and is a concept. Again he...
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How confident is Zeref to beat Acno in Post SBT? However, what you said looks like this: Zeref's statament > Author's statament
It was never stated in the series that Zeref was superior to Acno.
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From what I remember
Pre SBT Human Acnologia << FH Zeref <=> Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia << Human Acnologia Post SBT << Dragon Acnologia Post SBT
The only debate is FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia not anything else
Pre SBT Human Acnologia << FH Zeref <=> Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia << Human Acnologia Post SBT << Dragon Acnologia Post SBT
The only debate is FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia not anything else
Zeinx1
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Dude, feat > author statement are you kidding me?
Zeinx1
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Here's what's really happening:
Basic Zeref > Front sbt Human Acnologia
SBT Dragon Acnologia > Base Zeref (?)
Fh Zeref>>>>>>>> SBT Dragon Acnologia
Even neo eclipse is enough to make fairy heart zeref superior.
(it's a power that resets the timeline, so it's an insult to zeref to meet someone from fairy tail)
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Show me the feat that will put Zeref above Acno
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Nothing supports your claims about Fairy Heart being above SBT Acnologia at all. Human or Dragon. That is what we're trying to say bruh. Neo Eclipse as an ability isn't even relevant here because it isn't some sort of attack he could "use" against Acnologia. All you have is a one off statement from Irene (the fodder) who was incorrect.
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Jellal victim
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nah (jellal goat btw)
Zeinx1
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even just neo eclipse is enough
Zeinx1
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Neo eclipse is an environmental destruction attack, so let me put it this way, in order for acnologia to survive this attack, it has to leave the timeline anyway (which acnologia can never do) As I said, zeref wins, even in the sbt that you praise acnologia, zeref is more dominant than him.
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I don't think anyone who reads fairy taili would want such a thing.
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Just no but I feel like you're just ignoring points brought up by several people so far so I don't see a point in this convo continuing.
Zeinx1
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I don't think I'm ignoring anything, anyway I think zeref > acnologia.
And the author saying that acnologia is more powerful doesn't mean anything because feat > author statement
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Shame Zeref never got chance to cast neo eclipse which means he has no feat.
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