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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

Chardee.wl said:
I don't think anyone who reads fairy taili would want such a thing.
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Dude, no one who knows the Fairy Tail series agrees with the Zeref Above Acno nonsense.

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I feel like people forget that Post-SBT Acnologia absorbed all of the SBT… He became one with Conceptual Time and blatantly stated he surpassed Space-Time itself… So Neo Eclipse wouldn’t work on him most likely
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
I feel like people forget that Post-SBT Acnologia absorbed all of the SBT… He became one with Conceptual Time and blatantly stated he surpassed Space-Time itself… So Neo Eclipse wouldn’t work on him most likely
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Zeref wasn't even alive at the time. Zeref was the one who opened the SBT. And if Zeref had gone through the neo eclipse door with his plan. Fairy tail would have already been crushed under Zeref.

Zeref's master key also has a middle divinity, as we both know acnologia can't get through it, so acnologia can never kill zeref. But zeref can kill acnologia. And there is nothing acnologia can do against anksheram, one of zeref's haxes, even if it is said that acnologia can eat magic, it cannot be taken as a sufficient feat unless anksheram eats it and black magic = not magic.

Acnologia has no wincon against Zeref, if there was a battle between them Zeref would have won no diff according to vsb system.

Base Zeref will be enough for Acnologia.
 
Deceived3596 said:
There's a massive difference between the claims of "someone who can defeat the other" vs "someone is objectively stronger than the other."

You can argue that Zeref can defeat Acnologia given Neo Eclipse, but Acnologia is definitely stronger than Zeref overall as stated multiple times throughout the series, and by the author themselves.
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I don't disagree with what you are saying I am saying that zeref will and can defeat acnologia.

It's not just neo eclipse, there are multiple wincons that zeref can provide to win against acnologia but acnologia doesn't even have one.

I just said one of them to mitch above

It doesn't matter if it is an author statement. feat > author statement is considered as
 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
If you want proof of acno, just look at the profile. If you don't know that superiority is a victory condition on this wiki, then I don't care, go do some research and find out
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying prove that you can resist Anksheram. In addition, if I have to answer the question of superiority, he is not superior, there is no situation where he can be superior.
 
I hope you will stop saying that acnologia can resist anksheram because this is really a nonsense..

You say vsb profile, it's not there, prove to me where this character resisted. you didn't even watch fairy tail final series (I know you didn't watch it because I know you from discord)
 
zeinx said:
I hope you will stop saying that acnologia can resist anksheram because this is really a nonsense..

You say vsb profile, it's not there, prove to me where this character resisted. you didn't even watch fairy tail final series (I know you didn't watch it because I know you from discord)
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He's really equating gray's ice magic with anksheram ☠️ .
 
Chardee.wl said:
no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.

No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.

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No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.
zeinx said:
I'm not saying that, I'm saying prove that you can resist Anksheram. In addition, if I have to answer the question of superiority, he is not superior, there is no situation where he can be superior.
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The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.
zeinx said:
(I know you didn't watch it because I know you from discord)
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Idc, Then you're misunderstanding
 
Chardee.wl said:
no. zeref gets infinite stamina with fairy heart. and acnologia cannot overcome mid godly regeneration. zeref will win even if he stands still.

No, it's not. Anksheram is more of a curse than a spell, and it's mentioned in the series.

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I don't think Acnologia is even resistant to magic.

Because there are so many contradictions in the series.

 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.

The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.

Idc, Then you're misunderstanding
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Anksheram is a curse, I proved to you that black magic and magic are not the same thing and that magic works on acnologia.
zeinx said:
I don't think Acnologia is even resistant to magic.

Because there are so many contradictions in the series.

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Spectra_Schiffer said:
No. There is nothing related to Anhseram being a curse. This is completely a spell and it says so on Zeref's profile.
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''ı guess the gods are really were angry at me and that's why they put this CURSE on me.'' Do you know what the curse means? you don't even know the context in which the word magic is used in the zeref profile.
Spectra_Schiffer said:
The same goes for this message. Just by looking at the character's profile, it's easy to understand that this attack is magic and Acno's resistance to all types of magic.
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anksheram is a curse and the only evidence that acnologia will not work is that erza says that he will not be affected by the gray ice spell.

but we see that magic works on acnologia
 
Chardee.wl said:
''ı guess the gods are really were angry at me and that's why they put this CURSE on me.'' Do you know what the curse means? you don't even know the context in which the word magic is used in the zeref profile.

anksheram is a curse and the only evidence that acnologia will not work is that erza says that he will not be affected by the gray ice spell.

but we see that magic works on acnologia
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my brother really looked like me 🗣🔥🔥🔥
 
Bruh the fact is Zeref is dead, and before he died he had no showing putting him above SBT Acnologia. No feats no nothing. He's packed and fodder.
 
Grand_Astartes said:
Bruh the fact is Zeref is dead, and before he died he had no showing putting him above SBT Acnologia. No feats no nothing. He's packed and fodder.
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1-Zeref is reincarnated, not dead.
2-While zeref was alive, acnologia wasn't even in sbt, he learned about the existence of sbt thanks to zeref.
3-Base zeref > Acnologia (I explained this above)
4-You call zeref a fodder but zeref is more dominant in sbt than acnologia :D funny.
 
Chardee.wl said:
my brother really thinks that zeref is dead and does not know that acnologia was not in sbt when zeref was alive
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The scenario would have been like this when Zeref was alive.

When Zeref activates the neo eclipse, he walks through the door and it's over.

Welcome to the new universe.
 
Chardee.wl said:
Yes. But if he hadn't waited and walked through that door:censored:
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We call it a possible war with Acnologia.

We already know that Zeref is the smartest character in the series and that he will not hesitate.

In addition, if we have to say in the series, I think the reason for not resetting is this.

Let's not forget what Mavis said.
Maybe that's why he gave up resetting and fought Natsu.

Or it could be out of love for his brother because Zeref did everything for Natsu and even took Anksheram's curse because of him, he's really a very selfless brother.
 
zeinx said:
We call it a possible war with Acnologia.

We already know that Zeref is the smartest character in the series and that he will not hesitate.

In addition, if we have to say in the series, I think the reason for not resetting is this.

Let's not forget what Mavis said.
Maybe that's why he gave up resetting and fought Natsu.

Or it could be out of love for his brother because Zeref did everything for Natsu and even took Anksheram's curse because of him, he's really a very selfless brother.
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Yes, I agree, maybe Natsu beating him is what Zeref wants. The smile on his face when he is defeated supports this
 
zeinx said:
1-Zeref is reincarnated, not dead.
2-While zeref was alive, acnologia wasn't even in sbt, he learned about the existence of sbt thanks to zeref.
3-Base zeref > Acnologia (I explained this above)
4-You call zeref a fodder but zeref is more dominant in sbt than acnologia :D funny.
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Okay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.
 
Grand_Astartes said:
Okay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.
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no zeref crushes acno with immo 8 mid godly regen and anksheram
 
Grand_Astartes said:
Okay, so Zeref as we knew him is dead. Thanks for agreeing on that. Your explanations all fell flat, literally no one agrees with your statement including the author and feats/characters in series. Base Zeref being above Acnologia is blatantly just false lol. Zeref being "more dominant" (whatever that means) does not change the fact that him scaling above Acnologia in the way you're presenting is consistently false. Also, I didn't say Acnologia was in SBT while Zeref was alive, I said before he died Zeref had no feats putting him above SBT Acno.
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zeinx said:
Zeref wasn't even alive at the time. Zeref was the one who opened the SBT. And if Zeref had gone through the neo eclipse door with his plan. Fairy tail would have already been crushed under Zeref.

Zeref's master key also has a middle divinity, as we both know acnologia can't get through it, so acnologia can never kill zeref. But zeref can kill acnologia. And there is nothing acnologia can do against anksheram, one of zeref's haxes, even if it is said that acnologia can eat magic, it cannot be taken as a sufficient feat unless anksheram eats it and black magic = not magic.

Acnologia has no wincon against Zeref, if there was a battle between them Zeref would have won no diff according to vsb system.

Base Zeref will be enough for Acnologia.
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zeinx said:
I don't disagree with what you are saying I am saying that zeref will and can defeat acnologia.

It's not just neo eclipse, there are multiple wincons that zeref can provide to win against acnologia but acnologia doesn't even have one.

I just said one of them to mitch above

It doesn't matter if it is an author statement. feat > author statement is considered as
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I'm just not gonna respond to all that because I don't think you've read any of the refutations already mentioned for those things... It is just ad nauseam atp.
 
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