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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

Shadow-Ragna said:
I did though there is some slight things I want to mention

In chapter 522 Zeref mentions to Gray that he needs Mavis' power (Fairy Heart) in order to kill Acnologia and he even said in his base he would lose horribly to Acnologia.

Also to ask what about Natsu's scarf made up of Igneel's scales, and Zeref's curse didn't affect Natsu due to the scales absorbing the curse and not affecting Natsu. Also not only that but the curse wouldn't affect a dragon. Since Zeref's miasma was shown to be blocked by Natsu's scarf which was made of Igneel's scale, meaning Acnologia's stronger scales might have protected Acnologia. Due to Acnologia one shot Igneel.

Fairy Tail Manga: Chapter 436, Pages 17-19 it stated where Zeref said Acnologia could rule the world with his power.

Also Natsu defeated Fairy Heart Zeref before fighting Acnologia (Post Neo Eclipse Gate) and struggled against him. Not only that but it took virtually everyone in the series to stop Acnologia by combining their magic and feelings into Natsu.

I recall Acnologia completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which is stated to be a concept and also completely resisted the effects of the Space Between Time, which erases the existence of whatever is inside of it. Wouldn't that allow resistance to Zeref's Ankhseram Black Magic?

But then again I may be a dumbass.
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Assuming that you have looked at what I said, I will answer everything you threw one by one.

No there is no gray in chapter 532, the only people who are in that chapter are zeref bluis and natsu.
This is not the meaning that is meant, there he says about acnologia (this is basic zeref) I am afraid of him, I could not defeat him even though I am immortal, but acnologia does not stand a chance against zeref's anksheram and he can never negate his mid godly anyway, anyway, this is a separate topic, I will talk about it later, as I said in a moment, your discourse is wrong in this part.


This is not the only case of Natsu's scarf. As we know, Zeref created Natsu and probably neutralized anksheram on him, and that scarf is not only something that igneel did, but Zeref also had an effect on it. There is no reason why this curse should not affect a dragon, for example, I think it will work on Irene. The point of view you are looking from igneel is wrong.

I looked at what you mentioned but we should already know that anyone with 5a ap can do it.

you are distorting the situation here, zeref acnologia is not saying that he can rule the world and you are stronger than me. Zeref can rule the whole timeline, which is more important, the timeline or the world?



I assume the reason natsu can defeat zeref is because of story protection and if I need to answer additionally, Zeref could have passed through that door and ended the war if he wanted to after he kicked natsu, but he didn't do that because Zeref wanted to die, I wrote something about it above. And the purpose of natsu's creation is to kill zeref anyway.

As for the sbt situation, again no, acnologia was erased from existence by falling into sbt, and acnologia does not have any e.e resistance.

In addition, this does not mean that it can resist anksheram, and there are many contradictions about acnologia's magic resistance, which I will answer.
 
zeinx said:
I don't think Acnologia is even resistant to magic.

Because there are so many contradictions in the series.

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and fairy sphere and I can count many more, there are many contradictions within the series, I can even say the jellal part.
 
zeinx said:
Zeref wasn't even alive at the time. Zeref was the one who opened the SBT. And if Zeref had gone through the neo eclipse door with his plan. Fairy tail would have already been crushed under Zeref.

Zeref's master key also has a middle divinity, as we both know acnologia can't get through it, so acnologia can never kill zeref. But zeref can kill acnologia. And there is nothing acnologia can do against anksheram, one of zeref's haxes, even if it is said that acnologia can eat magic, it cannot be taken as a sufficient feat unless anksheram eats it and black magic = not magic.

Acnologia has no wincon against Zeref, if there was a battle between them Zeref would have won no diff according to vsb system.

Base Zeref will be enough for Acnologia.
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zeinx said:
I don't disagree with what you are saying I am saying that zeref will and can defeat acnologia.

It's not just neo eclipse, there are multiple wincons that zeref can provide to win against acnologia but acnologia doesn't even have one.

I just said one of them to mitch above

It doesn't matter if it is an author statement. feat > author statement is considered as
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I guess I should have quoted them too.

And if I have to write one more explanation. Acnologia is a Zeref victim
 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
You need to prove that black magic is layered
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I don't think it has anything to do with this but the layer hmm... I think I can give you Mavis's case, but I don't need it for now, acnologia can't resist death manipulation. (If you say it's in the Vsb profile, you can prove to me that it can resist death manipulation from the profile in the resistances section, but there is no such thing because it has no resistance).
 
Delta3000 said:
@zeinx
Why are you conflating zeref's immortality with his ability to beat Acnologia in a fight? When Acnologia has greater speed, strength and durability as well as magic resistance that has only been overcome by sheer quantity; quantity that Zeref doesn't possess.
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hmmm

Dude, acnologia is just faster, but since the neo eclipse in zeref is an environmental destruction, you cannot get rid of it unless you are inf speed, after all, it needs to come out of an infinite timeline, which acnologia cannot, so I am not sure to give the speed issue to acnologia. Zeref is stronger, I think they are equal in terms of durability, but since we include things like mid godly immo8, for example, zeref can resist even if it eats a 3a level attack and can be defeated due to mid godly, anyway acnologia cannot do any of these, you cannot keep acnologia superior in hax, I can say this as follows.

Zeref VS Acnologia

Power: Zeref
Ap : Zeref
Durability : =
Resistance : Zeref
Speed : Zeref for the reasons I have explained.
Stamina : Zeref
Hax : Zeref>>>>>>>

Conc : 6-0 Zeref solos.
 
In addition, immortality is of great importance in battle because Acnologia will get tired, but zeref will not get tired, acnologia can hit as much as it wants, zeref will regenerate. We must also remember that Zeref's stamina is infinite, Zeref can attack endlessly and Acnologia will be defeated in the end, simple as that.
 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
This is probably something said because it curses Zeref's fate. Calling it a curse is pretty ridiculous.
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no anksheram has been called black art/curse many times in the series. it has nothing to do with what you are saying.
Spectra_Schiffer said:
No exception to such a thing is stated anywhere. If you want, let's ask the person who makes my FT profiles here about this?

And if you think Acno's magic resistance is conflicting please open a crt to lower it, I'm talking based on the gives in the profiles
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in the panels I posted, I proved that acno is not resistant to all magics. the only evidence that it is resistant is that gray's ice spell is said not to work on him
 
LordGinSama said:
I'm gonna laugh when Mitch and Clover end up downgrading Zeref because of Zeinx
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By the way, base zeref is enough for acnologia.

Oh, and if you don't know, there were topics like this neo eclipse 3a 3 years ago, I thought I'd tell you.

And it's not just neo eclipse. There are Anksheram, mid godly, immo8, inf stamina and more than one wincon that I can list. It is illogical to say Acnologia>
 
zeinx said:
By the way, base zeref is enough for acnologia.

Oh, and if you don't know, there were topics like this neo eclipse 3a 3 years ago, I thought I'd tell you.

And it's not just neo eclipse. There are Anksheram, mid godly, immo8, inf stamina and more than one wincon that I can list. It is illogical to say Acnologia>
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Take your meds.
 
zeinx said:
Zeref VS Acnologia

Power: Zeref
Ap : Zeref
Durability : =
Resistance : Zeref
Speed : Zeref for the reasons I have explained.
Stamina : Zeref
Hax : Zeref>>>>>>>

Conc : 6-0 Zeref solos.
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Spectra_Schiffer said:
I already say that it is pointless to argue because my answers are sufficient

If I had more time I could set up a vs thread for this topic 🥱
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I proved to you that acnon is not resistant to all spells. And where is the answer?

you don't even know from which panel acno gets resistance to magic.
 
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