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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

DemonGodMitchAubin said:
They both weren’t fighting seriously as Erza couldn’t focus at all. Willingness to fight someone isn’t a scaling tool.

Base Natsu>Base Jellal

Base Natsu easily overpowered a spell that destroyed Jellal. Also at this point, Gray is not a reliable source of scaling info

Eh… I mean I guess, scaling is dumb like that
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Just give Levy this one dude.
 
Tbh I was sus scaling Jellal to anything tbh. No feats in BDSK arc and gets beat up by God Serena. Whom is weaker than the sisters. I don't think it's entirely impossible for Jellal to simply need to play catch up. He can't always be above team fairy tail by just existing. People on other places put God Serena above sisters which is crazy. Getting flashbacks of people thinking human Selene is above full power Suzaku, Misaki and Kirin
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Tbh I was sus scaling Jellal to anything tbh. No feats in BDSK arc and gets beat up by God Serena. Whom is weaker than the sisters. I don't think it's entirely impossible for Jellal to simply need to play catch up. He can't always be above team fairy tail by just existing. People on other places put God Serena above sisters which is crazy. Getting flashbacks of people thinking human Selene is above full power Suzaku, Misaki and Kirin
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Jellal is at the very least relative to Beginning of 100YQ Erza, but Jellal isn’t on the current Natsu and Erza level by any means
 
zeinx said:
The battle depends entirely on whether Gray can use the ice shell or not. Even if Jellal is faster, it won't matter because even the time around Gray freezes (Zeref said this). If Gray uses the ice shell, Gray wins (he dies as a price).
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The fact it's a debate is bad on either of them
 
LordGinSama said:
Lol no.


Time is a type 2 concept, not a type 1 concept. Time is not independent from reality, it's apart of reality.
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but rimuru gets conceptual manipulation type 1 because he can eat the concept of time in the webnovel. natsu also burns the concept of time, so shouldn't it be cm1?
 
LordGinSama said:
Time is a type 2 concept, not a type 1 concept. Time is not independent from reality, it's apart of reality.
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From what DT explained, anything that is called a concept but has no further explanation is type 3.

here

So, where does it say that time is standardized as a type 2 concept, when we standardize everything, even the concept of space for type 3 when there is no in-depth analysis?
 
Phsccarvalho said:
From what DT explained, anything that is called a concept but has no further explanation is type 3.

here

So, where does it say that time is standardized as a type 2 concept, when we standardize everything, even the concept of space for type 3 when there is no in-depth analysis?
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This sbt is not considered as a normal concept, therefore it is not cm3
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Fairy Tail: Conceptual Space Between Time

I don't know why this hasn't been done yet, but anyone who controls or destroys the Space Between Time's Magic should have Conceptual Manipulation. The Space Between Time has clearly been stated to be that of a Concept and be a direct result of the Concept of Time trying to fix itself. It's...
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Fairy Tail Conceptual Manipulation Revisions

Introduction: I’ve decided to go through and review all the Conceptual Manipulation abilities in the verse to see if they have the correct type of Conceptual Manipulation or not. Premise: There’s only two abilities in the verse which are categorized as Conceptual Manipulation. Memento Mori...
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Chardee.wl said:
but rimuru gets conceptual manipulation type 1 because he can eat the concept of time in the webnovel. natsu also burns the concept of time, so shouldn't it be cm1?
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Different verses have different types of concepts. By default time is not a type 1 concept, as it isn't independent from the universe.


This is type 2 CM. Stop pushing for FT upgrades for the sake of upgrading before I pay @DemonGodMitchAubin and @CloverDragon03 2 mil each to downgrade the verse to 9-A. Seriously it's annoying to deal with on a near weekly basis.
 
It's definitely not Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1)

Type 1 Concepts require said concepts to be unbounded by things which they govern over. That evidence doesn't exist for the SBT, so it isn't gaining Type 1.
 
LordGinSama said:
Different verses have different types of concepts. By default time is not a type 1 concept, as it isn't independent from the universe.


This is type 2 CM. Stop pushing for FT upgrades for the sake of upgrading before I pay @DemonGodMitchAubin and @CloverDragon03 2 mil each to downgrade the verse to 9-A. Seriously it's annoying to deal with on a near weekly basis.
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I know default time as a type3 concept

Don't worry, I won't open anything like a cm1 upgrade (for now :D).
 
Chardee.wl said:
but rimuru gets conceptual manipulation type 1 because he can eat the concept of time in the webnovel. natsu also burns the concept of time, so shouldn't it be cm1?
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Tensura and FT universe are different universes and hence the achievements and concepts are different and as Gin said
LordGinSama said:
By default time is not a type 1 concept, as it isn't independent from the universe.
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