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"It's is a possibility" not he will be stronger
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"It's is a possibility" not he will be stronger
This doesn't mean much. It's just a possibility. And Zeref himself is not sure that he will defeat Acno. If I remember correctly, Acno himself denied this possibility... Also Narrator and Acno's statament > Irene's statament
No, no, no, no. Fairy heart zeref > pre-sbt acnologia is also mentioned on this vsb.This doesn't really mean anything especially when we find out Zeref literally didn't....
Zeref is stronger than pre sbt acnologia the moment he gets the fairy heart, man..."It's is a possibility" not he will be stronger
Dude, resetting this timeline goes back 400 years, 400 years ago acnologia was a doctor, lol only kid zeref is even taking oneshots at him...Saying that Zeref is stronger than Acnologia is like me saying I'm stronger than Mike Tyson because I have a shotgun.
Neo Eclipse doesn't scale to Zeref's stats in any way shape or form. Hell you can argue that it wouldn't even effect him since Acnologia is well over 400 years old, with Neo Eclipse only being able to revert 400 years exactly. So even with Neo Eclipse, Acnologia would still be around in the distant past since he's older than the amount of years Neo Eclipse is able to reset.
At best Zeref can hope for an incon.
It means a lot and that's how it's mentioned in vsb: zeref > pre sbt acnologia. And Zeref himself was sure that he was going to defeat Acno ever since he got his fairy heart form and he was going to end this whole world with the neo eclipse. And fairy heart has never encountered sbt acnologia with zeref, so everything you say remains inconsistent. (no one here says anything to what the author said, we are just talking among ourselves and according to our logic, it is already so if you take feat>statement, zeref>acnologia comes out)This doesn't mean much. It's just a possibility. And Zeref himself is not sure that he will defeat Acno. If I remember correctly, Acno himself denied this possibility... Also Narrator and Acno's statament > Irene's statament
Well it is just wrong then lolNo, no, no, no. Fairy heart zeref > pre-sbt acnologia is also mentioned on this vsb.
No it's not wrong lolWell it is just wrong then lol
??It means a lot and that's how it's mentioned in vsb: zeref > pre sbt acnologia. And Zeref himself was sure that he was going to defeat Acno ever since he got his fairy heart form and he was going to end this whole world with the neo eclipse. And fairy heart has never encountered sbt acnologia with zeref, so everything you say remains inconsistent. (no one here says anything to what the author said, we are just talking among ourselves and according to our logic, it is already so if you take feat>statement, zeref>acnologia comes out)
Dude, feat > author statement are you kidding me?How confident is Zeref to beat Acno in Post SBT? However, what you said looks like this: Zeref's statament > Author's statament
It was never stated in the series that Zeref was superior to Acno.
Here's what's really happening:From what I remember
Pre SBT Human Acnologia << FH Zeref <=> Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia << Human Acnologia Post SBT << Dragon Acnologia Post SBT
The only debate is FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Dragon Acnologia not anything else
Show me the feat that will put Zeref above AcnoDude, feat > author statement are you kidding me?
Nothing supports your claims about Fairy Heart being above SBT Acnologia at all. Human or Dragon. That is what we're trying to say bruh. Neo Eclipse as an ability isn't even relevant here because it isn't some sort of attack he could "use" against Acnologia. All you have is a one off statement from Irene (the fodder) who was incorrect.Here's what's really happening:
Basic Zeref > Front sbt Human Acnologia
SBT Dragon Acnologia > Base Zeref (?)
Fh Zeref>>>>>>>> SBT Dragon Acnologia
Even neo eclipse is enough to make fairy heart zeref superior.
(it's a power that resets the timeline, so it's an insult to zeref to meet someone from fairy tail)
so it's an insult to zeref to meet someone from fairy tail)
Jellal victim
nah (jellal goat btw)Jellal victim
even just neo eclipse is enoughShow me the feat that will put Zeref above Acno
Neo eclipse is an environmental destruction attack, so let me put it this way, in order for acnologia to survive this attack, it has to leave the timeline anyway (which acnologia can never do) As I said, zeref wins, even in the sbt that you praise acnologia, zeref is more dominant than him.Nothing supports your claims about Fairy Heart being above SBT Acnologia at all. Human or Dragon. That is what we're trying to say bruh. Neo Eclipse as an ability isn't even relevant here because it isn't some sort of attack he could "use" against Acnologia. All you have is a one off statement from Irene (the fodder) who was incorrect.
I don't think anyone who reads fairy taili would want such a thing.Show me the feat that will put Zeref above Acno
Just no but I feel like you're just ignoring points brought up by several people so far so I don't see a point in this convo continuing.Neo eclipse is an environmental destruction attack, so let me put it this way, in order for acnologia to survive this attack, it has to leave the timeline anyway (which acnologia can never do) As I said, zeref wins, even in the sbt that you praise acnologia, zeref is more dominant than him.
I don't think I'm ignoring anything, anyway I think zeref > acnologia.Just no but I feel like you're just ignoring points brought up by several people so far so I don't see a point in this convo continuing.
Shame Zeref never got chance to cast neo eclipse which means he has no feat.I don't think I'm ignoring anything, anyway I think zeref > acnologia.
And the author saying that acnologia is more powerful doesn't mean anything because feat > author statement
lmaoeven just neo eclipse is enough
Dude, no one who knows the Fairy Tail series agrees with the Zeref Above Acno nonsense.I don't think anyone who reads fairy taili would want such a thing.
I totally agree, it's just that Zeref fans can't accept a very simple issue that has been said many times in the series lolYou can argue that Zeref can defeat Acnologia given Neo Eclipse, but Acnologia is definitely stronger than Zeref overall as stated multiple times throughout the series, and by the author themselves.
I feel like people forget that Post-SBT Acnologia absorbed all of the SBT… He became one with Conceptual Time and blatantly stated he surpassed Space-Time itself… So Neo Eclipse wouldn’t work on him most likely
I totally agree, Acno >> Zeref is not even up for discussion. This is a plot just like Kaguya vs Madara or Yhwach vs Aizen.I feel like people forget that Post-SBT Acnologia absorbed all of the SBT… He became one with Conceptual Time and blatantly stated he surpassed Space-Time itself… So Neo Eclipse wouldn’t work on him most likely
Zeref wasn't even alive at the time. Zeref was the one who opened the SBT. And if Zeref had gone through the neo eclipse door with his plan. Fairy tail would have already been crushed under Zeref.I feel like people forget that Post-SBT Acnologia absorbed all of the SBT… He became one with Conceptual Time and blatantly stated he surpassed Space-Time itself… So Neo Eclipse wouldn’t work on him most likely
My brother really said that lol...Shame Zeref never got chance to cast neo eclipse which means he has no feat.
For this, superiority is enoughZeref's master key also has a middle divinity, as we both know acnologia can't get through it, so acnologia can never kill zeref.
Acno already has resistance to ankshreamAnd there is nothing acnologia can do against anksheram, one of zeref's haxes, even if it is said that acnologia can eat magic,
I don't disagree with what you are saying I am saying that zeref will and can defeat acnologia.There's a massive difference between the claims of "someone who can defeat the other" vs "someone is objectively stronger than the other."
You can argue that Zeref can defeat Acnologia given Neo Eclipse, but Acnologia is definitely stronger than Zeref overall as stated multiple times throughout the series, and by the author themselves.
Prove itFor this, superiority is enough
Acno already has resistance to ankshream