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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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Zeref Low 2-C Downgrade
Hello everyone, today I will talk about why Zeref is not a low 2-C and why his scale is absurd and not true Before I start to refute, if you do not know about Zeref's low 2-C scale, you can read the previous crt and chapters 530-540 from the manga First of all, most of the things in the scale...
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Yeah, thanks, it is just that some people believe that people can still perform amazing abilities when it is visibly shown that they can’t perform certain spells without straining from their own injuries.
Zeinx1
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Selene's situation is much different than that.
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Not sure what you mean by that with how she went back into human form post injury.
Zeinx1
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She had another reason, that's all I wanted to say.
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Zeref Intelligence Upgrade
Zeref has mastered all the magic known in the world and has completely mastered the forbidden magic of black magic and made it a part of his own body, he built the R system that allows the dead to be resurrected with only academic knowledge, and he built the Eclipse gate, which allows time...
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Since we know that Natsu used Laxus' power without flame power in the new episode, can't he do the same with the other 7 dragon-powered characters?
For example, this means that Natsu can use every element in the 7 fire dragons.
Presumably, Natsu can use the 7 flame dragon powers separately or in different ways.
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For example, this means that Natsu can use every element in the 7 fire dragons.
Presumably, Natsu can use the 7 flame dragon powers separately or in different ways.
Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest Chapter 148
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Thats actually a good point he might be able to, though my guess he was more used to Lightning due to him using it alongside his Fire Dragon Slayer Magic. So who knows maybe he could tap into himself and use the other Dragon Slayer Magic?
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Maybe he can even use his dragon god powers
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I also have a question separate from this subject.
In this forum, it is written that Mavis has cm2 resistance in her profile, but isn't this wrong because it says "(She must have the same resistance as Zeref)". But zeref doesn't have cm2 resistance in his profile, so why does Mavis have cm2 resistance in his profile (if Mavis earns cm2 because she can manipulate sbt, Mavis can use Neo eclipse and qualify to be l2c)
In this forum, it is written that Mavis has cm2 resistance in her profile, but isn't this wrong because it says "(She must have the same resistance as Zeref)". But zeref doesn't have cm2 resistance in his profile, so why does Mavis have cm2 resistance in his profile (if Mavis earns cm2 because she can manipulate sbt, Mavis can use Neo eclipse and qualify to be l2c)
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That is actually possible...though it might also be combined with the Fire Dragon Slayer Magic? Given Natsu was able to combine flames from Igneel and Atlas Flame together since Aldoron mentioned the two flames when Natsu was attacking him.
So we might see Ignia's flames appear for Natsu?
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Probably not, Natsu ate Laxus’ lightning, but with 7 Flames Dragon Mode, Wendy enchanted their powers into himSince we know that Natsu used Laxus' power without flame power in the new episode, can't he do the same with the other 7 dragon-powered characters?
For example, this means that Natsu can use every element in the 7 fire dragons.
Presumably, Natsu can use the 7 flame dragon powers separately or in different ways.
Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest Chapter 148
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It was a different method of gaining the power
Zeinx1
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I don't know, but I think it was a nice power up, I think natsu is ready to fight with ignia
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Got it, thank you and can you take a look at what Mavis wrote about cm2?
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So what it seems like to me is
100% Haku = Casual Suzaku < DF Wendy < Dragon Irene < Human Dragon gods < Suzaku underworld purgatory black slash < Pre God Serena fight Jellal <= Misaki (Using her ultimate technique) <= Kirin < God Serena << Luso Signario << Heavens Wheel Erza Post BDSK < Black wing Erza Post BDSK <= Enny Signario Destruction Armor<< Strongest armors Erza Post BDSK = Post God Serena fight Jellal
Minerva tier 5-A due to impressing Jellal, should be comparable to casual armors Erza and able to destroy Luso Signario's creations
100% Haku = Casual Suzaku < DF Wendy < Dragon Irene < Human Dragon gods < Suzaku underworld purgatory black slash < Pre God Serena fight Jellal <= Misaki (Using her ultimate technique) <= Kirin < God Serena << Luso Signario << Heavens Wheel Erza Post BDSK < Black wing Erza Post BDSK <= Enny Signario Destruction Armor<< Strongest armors Erza Post BDSK = Post God Serena fight Jellal
Minerva tier 5-A due to impressing Jellal, should be comparable to casual armors Erza and able to destroy Luso Signario's creations
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Yeah since it seems like Jellal upscales and beats God Serena due to beating him, man Serena is getting Ls lately. Though glad Jellal is getting respect since I am a fan of him, since he deserves a lot of it.
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Oh right I remember your name from discord server. @Shadow-Ragna
God Serena seems black dragon slayer knight level since Jellal got humiliated in same way Laxus did vs Kirin. Casual Kirin stomped base Laxus, red lightning stomped casual Kirin, serious Kirin was greater than or equal to red lightning. Though I'm aware coffin had shenanigans on his soul. So you can probably say
Jellal with casual spells (grand chariot, meteor) = base Laxus
Jellal with serious spells (Sema and anything else on this level. Maybe Altaris? etc) = red lightning
If you follow that logic god Serena should be slightly above Kirin or comparable. If you use that logic then it would make Jellal with 9 star thing = lightning dragon king mode
. This really just makes Erza's growth monstrous because she low diffed the sisters and mid diffed the other one. Since narrative puts sisters above Misaki and fact God Serena is scared of them. You could say hax but it was pretty evident transmuting the world was their form of cheap tricks as it was evident Alchemizing armor > world alchemy when the older sister got serious
God Serena seems black dragon slayer knight level since Jellal got humiliated in same way Laxus did vs Kirin. Casual Kirin stomped base Laxus, red lightning stomped casual Kirin, serious Kirin was greater than or equal to red lightning. Though I'm aware coffin had shenanigans on his soul. So you can probably say
Jellal with casual spells (grand chariot, meteor) = base Laxus
Jellal with serious spells (Sema and anything else on this level. Maybe Altaris? etc) = red lightning
If you follow that logic god Serena should be slightly above Kirin or comparable. If you use that logic then it would make Jellal with 9 star thing = lightning dragon king mode
. This really just makes Erza's growth monstrous because she low diffed the sisters and mid diffed the other one. Since narrative puts sisters above Misaki and fact God Serena is scared of them. You could say hax but it was pretty evident transmuting the world was their form of cheap tricks as it was evident Alchemizing armor > world alchemy when the older sister got serious
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I wouldn’t say that GS is DDK level as they are in a class on their own when compared to most of the past enemies. I wouldn’t take the Alchemists as anything impressive for physical stats simply because Alchemy is not tied to their bodies unlike Magic users.Oh right I remember your name from discord server. @Shadow-Ragna
God Serena seems black dragon slayer knight level since Jellal got humiliated in same way Laxus did vs Kirin. Casual Kirin stomped base Laxus, red lightning stomped casual Kirin, serious Kirin was greater than or equal to red lightning. Though I'm aware coffin had shenanigans on his soul. So you can probably say
Jellal with casual spells (grand chariot, meteor) = base Laxus
Jellal with serious spells (Sema and anything else on this level. Maybe Altaris? etc) = red lightning
If you follow that logic god Serena should be slightly above Kirin or comparable. If you use that logic then it would make Jellal with 9 star thing = lightning dragon king mode
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Wouldn't really matter since the older sister Alchemized armor which is superior to her using world alchemy. So sisters world alchemy > God Serena and world alchemy < Alchemizing armor.
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I mean sure alchemising armor would give some physical stats increase but getting pass that would not save the sister in the long run.
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From whom? it's more than a some physical increase
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From those who have better physical stats, etc.. If they are too slow, the Sisters would likely get it, but if not, they would be sitting ducks.
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Wasn't really slow at all since she matched Erza'a swordsmanship. But you're saying it won't help her if her opponent is superior? I mean sure? I'm not arguing they beat anybody. I'm just saying they're above Diablos and God Serena (until Diablos return with an off screen power up)
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Fairy Tail Minerva and Signario Sisters 5-A
Signario Sisters are 5-A This is due to many things. New enemies they are indeed, but it has actual backing. The argument starts here, implying females from the top alchemist guild either rival Misaki or are superior. More proof, is God Serena. A character known for his arrogance, admits he's...
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Jellal~Red Lightning Laxus is probably going to get axxed because the statement that compares them isn't about powerOh right I remember your name from discord server. @Shadow-Ragna
God Serena seems black dragon slayer knight level since Jellal got humiliated in same way Laxus did vs Kirin. Casual Kirin stomped base Laxus, red lightning stomped casual Kirin, serious Kirin was greater than or equal to red lightning. Though I'm aware coffin had shenanigans on his soul. So you can probably say
Jellal with casual spells (grand chariot, meteor) = base Laxus
Jellal with serious spells (Sema and anything else on this level. Maybe Altaris? etc) = red lightning
If you follow that logic god Serena should be slightly above Kirin or comparable. If you use that logic then it would make Jellal with 9 star thing = lightning dragon king mode
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What do you mean?
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Based on the actual meaning of the statement, it just means "It would make us both look bad if we fought" not "We would both be worse off damage wise if we fought"
So Laxus never actually compared their power levels to each other, just said they shouldn't fight as it would hurt their reputations. So Jellal wouldn't scale to Red Lightning Laxus and would bare minimum scale to Erza based on his feats.
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Great, never liked that statement being used for scaling anyways.
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I made it much more comprehensive
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Zeref dragneel cm2 resistance addition and Mavis vermillion august gray silver cm2 removal
Mavis and other characters have a resistance of cm2 in their profile, but this would be wrong. The reason for giving cm2 resistance is that it is written that it should have the same resistance as Zeref, but Zeref's profile does not have cm2 resistance, it has cm2 Mavis cannot acquire a...
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I mean Jellal still is 5-A due to Erza stating Jellal is still stronger than her correct given he matched her when he was brainwashed? Also along with Jellal's feats of him beating God Serena would be used as well?
But understandable with the Laxus one. Though shame because Jellal is an underrated character.
But understandable with the Laxus one. Though shame because Jellal is an underrated character.
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I don't believe she stated he was stronger
Jellal's feats are kinda meh in 100YQ TBH, he's unquantifiably comparable to Erza and then gets his ass rocked by God Serena, who is weaker than the Signario Sisters, who are vaguely comparable to Misaki
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IIRC he was kinda toying with Erza even when she went Strongest Armor, plus he was willing to fight Laxus.
As for Serena, Base Gray (who sad as it is to say IS stated to be = to Base Natsu) viewed Serena as strong.
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They both weren’t fighting seriously as Erza couldn’t focus at all. Willingness to fight someone isn’t a scaling tool.
Base Natsu>Base Jellal
Base Natsu easily overpowered a spell that destroyed Jellal. Also at this point, Gray is not a reliable source of scaling info
Eh… I mean I guess, scaling is dumb like that
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