Can you just stay on the topic because this isn't exactly fun for me either. At least his trying to stay on topic and trying to understand. I had to reword everything multiple times and each time it had to be more simpler for him. I don't get this amusement simply because you couldn't follow the thread.
The title literally says it. Change Elaine(Dunamis Demiurgos) to 1-C since I realized that the Presence is already considered 1-C despite the Vertigo section telling us his Low 1-C, possibly 1-C. Michael and Lucifer to 1-C and the reason is in the OP.
Goodness gracious.
Yes but add it only for Vertigo section. There's already something for Universal feat for DC Cosmology which was what I just put:
The reason is in the OP.
No. I just had one question will there be a Presence profile split key one for Yahweh and the other for the Divine Presence?
Okay.
Can you summarize the reason? Where are the additional levels of transcendence coming from specifically?
Not sure, probably not.
Lucifer has stated that time and space are an extensions of the mind, the will. When Lucifer shattered his gates through time and space he made sure each gate was in every world, every realm. We know that Creation is separated into levels which include worlds(universes), dimensions(spatiotemporal), and realms(afterlives/locations outside the Multiverse).
If so we can disregard the Presence here since he's one and the same for each Cosmology.
Why is that 1-C? To get them solidly 1-C you'd have to prove a level of infinity above the Silver City, mainly.
I'm sorry I thought you just wanted the Universal scale.
Okay, this is much clearer. Essentially you're saying "Michael, Lucifer, and Elaine are solidly 1-C due to having superiority over the Silver City."
In short, yes.
Brother it took us way way too long to get here.
Not necessarily, no, but I think this additional piece of evidence is helpful:
That's because there is context behind it. The Mansions pull part on your mind like tidal waves crashing on the shores. Your mind is your greatest weapon and Lucifer’s willpower was too heavy for the Mansions. By destroying the Mansion he indirectly destroys the Universes unlike what people claim it's not fragile until in the presence of Lucifer.
I don't think seeing like an ant to 5-D structure alone would be enough for qualitative transcendence(6-D). But if there is additional support, it maybe be enough.
The City views the Universe as it glistens and glitters like a child's toy. Yet this is enough for qualitative superiority, Elaine's case is no different.
In fact, these alone are not sufficient for qualitative transcendence, I am sure there is additional support. But if the situations are the same, I have no problem.
This may be one of the "additional supports" I was talking about.
So the question is do you agree?
I guess yeah. I also wonder what more people will say. But for now you can count it as agreement.
Deagon I'm pretty sure would try to implement the Low 2-C tier for a single Universe. This is 4D in terms of dimensional space being larger than 3-D. The Multiverse which is already accounted as 2-A would be 5-D as it contains all these Universal structures which is a degree of infinity. Then the City is the second level of infinity(superiority) and what I would consider 6-D(qualitative). The beings transcend all these levels to put them to be at least 7D which is warranted for 1-C.
In fact, we treat every single universes of DC, regardless of cosmology, as Low 2-C structures. This is on our DC Cosmology blog.
I was aware and I thought there wouldn't be confusion to where I got the tiers. Always you agree with this?
Sorry I don't really understand the op and tbh, I'm too lazy to read all the whole thread.
Can you summarize the changes you are proposing?
Universe - Low 2-CSorry I don't really understand the op and tbh, I'm too lazy to read all the whole thread.
In short, yes.
Okay I'm neutral for now.
No the Silver City doesn’t view the universe as a child’s toy. The universe is simply described as glistening and glittering like a child’s toy. There’s nothing about the Silver City that makes it qualitatively superior to the universe.
They're not 5D, that's the Multiverse both are located in the Void and start at the basis of 6D.
I said it views as it glitters and glistens like a child's toy which is exactly what you said. There was no confusion about what was said.
The Multiverse is 6-D? What?
thats what im asking
I literally said:
I never said this. I said we if we scale it would seem more likely that it would be tiered like that. The Dreaming itself isn't 5D, I was just saying that because you called the City 5D which I don't see why it is, and that it would be more “likely” the Dreaming would be 5D. This is following the logic that's Dream birth imagination(5D). However; it's not said it is. Please read what I said carefully.
The city is accepted as Low 1-C (5D)
