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I can't be bothered going through the entire thread, so someone just tell me the arguments against William.
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He get's passived by Edelweiss which will show him that he will die if he starts the fight against Edel, so he just refuses to fight a battle he know he'll die in.I can't be bothered going through the entire thread, so someone just tell me the arguments against William.
First of all selling your soul doesn't mean corruption, and neither does the appearance change. Second of all, i still don't see how corruption has literally any relation to not being scared of death.which again, wouldn't even affect William with the whole him being very corrupted thing
I already explained why he can't do that.also, his passive power null would simply block said visions from appearing to him
Again, he just sold his soul, doesn't mean he doesn't fear death. All these leaps with the husk and the corruption coming outta nowhere.because a ****** corrupted husk doens't fear death
The visions are not a power anymore than the beyond fate is.You can nullify a power without nullifing the source, so he doesn't need to nullify her being beyod fate to block the visions
It's not a power, it's a state of being. Acausality, higher dimensional existence, NEP, Abstract Existence etc, they aren't "powers", they're states of being. Because a dude doesn't have the power to be acausal, he is acausal. Which is why power null doesn't work as well with them (unless shown otherwise).just as much as is being beyond fate, which is a physiological power
You'd have to prove that is the case for your power null though.states of being are also classified as powers, as they are simply powers of one's body
It's a passive trait that has an effect. Being beyond fate means your "gravitational pull of fate" is bigger, and if your gravitational pull of fate is bigger your fate naturally leads people to their death. Again i would like proof of Ducky being able to nullify something like this. I would also like proof of his null being 2-A too, i hope it doesn't come from the fact that he got this power from Grandfather spider.passive ability generated by their state of being
You can't use that concept hax if it isn't even in the profile, so that's out.I'd just like to note, his profile is outdated. Shadow Magic is a type 2 concept, for starters, that grants a lot more hax.
Because all desperados are type 4 and some desperados can affect other desperados. Ikki and Edel being 2 obvious examples.Also, wtf? How she affected a type 4 with fate hax?
I don't think these kinds of things apply to acausality. Cus acausality is tied to the flow of time, so whether you are beyond 4D or 5D doesn't matter UNLESS 5D is a time dimension.The duck's acausality will be on a 5-D level if it's accepted, soooooo
No, that would be contradicting if it were type 5 (i think). Type 4 is "outside of the regular laws of causality" or "transcending causality" (which gets lowballed to type 4). So you can still affect them, even though nothing that's working under the regular laws will.also, if Edel's thing can work on Desperados it would mean they have a fate, which would contradict them being Type 4 Acausals at all
Yeah, but it's in no way transcendent. It's like saying "Planetary AP >>>>>> Mountain AP" which is indeed true, but it is in no way transcendent. Multiverse is just a bunch of universes either way. So you're not affecting anything superior, you're just affecting more of the same thing.Multiversal time Time/Causality >>>>> Universal Time/Causality
I mean for the NEP vs Fate probably yeah.Do we need a separate thread for everything?
THISalso, if Edel's thing can work on Desperados it would mean they have a fate, which would contradict them being Type 4 Acausals at all
This.No, that would be contradicting if it were type 5 (i think). Type 4 is "outside of the regular laws of causality" or "transcending causality" (which gets lowballed to type 4). So you can still affect them, even though nothing that's working under the regular laws will.
Acausality type 4 is outright immunity as opposed to resistanceacausality type 4 has resistance to fate manip,so possibly Edelweiss can bypass resistance
I mean multiple people are arguing for me though, what's your point?Earl my friend, if multiple people are arguing in the inverse, you’re gonna be outmatched.
The only way this would stay is if they were working on a different system of fate/causality as opposed to transcending it altogether. And I know as well as you do that it’s the former.
It is, you can't apply rules to someone that isn't inside the system where you apply rules.Type 4 isnt "immunity", that would be Type 5