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"really nice" huh
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Dragon ball universe crt
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You know the problem?
In the DBS manga we actually got a 10/10 draw of the macrocosm structure just as the "secondary canon" you mention.
Also, you forget one thing, in the Anime we are only seeing the mortal realm, ie observable Universe..
We know U7 consists of Heaven, hell, and the Demon realm. However, you know what? None of those spaces are represented in the Universal model of DBS.
We only got a visual of the mortal/physical Universe everytime, in BOG and with Omni King's representation of Universe.
How we are going to quantify without any proper representation of the macrocosm??? You forgetting Hell, Heaven, etc...where will those be situated then?
Unless you got a better macrocosm structure to offer, of course....it'll just have to use the guidebook statements that make the universe, Hell, and Heaven all infinite then...........
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You said he was “crying” because he disagreeing with current scaling. You’re clearly being rude, can you link the ruled and past discussions that cover his argument?
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It won't do him any good if that's really true lol
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I agree 100% with getting rid of that stupid map.
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I'm not being rude, is "crying" now rude? Ask God to show you, I'm at work.
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the only thing disagreed in other threads were the points about being downgraded to baseline, this thread is not doing that
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thank you so much, what do you think about using the map used in the anime for the dbs anime?
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Can we get a scan of such?
And that’s where the issue comes in at, the original calc asserts that there’s a physical distance being traveled to reach this other realm while we all know the map is just a physical depiction of what it would look like. Trying to use it as a means of measurement just doesn’t work given the nature of it.
You don’t, because we know for a fact Snakeway isn’t half the size of the universe.
Doesn’t that statement directly contradict the primary series? That would just make the gbs non reliable no?
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Fine then, what new map model you pruporse then?
Where will be Heaven, hell, and the Demon realm situated without speculation then? See?... that's the problem
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yeah, that is why i had a different suggestion for the manga, i covered this, even if they use the map, it isn't drawn in scale
says who?
read the op again, i covered this
says who? how do you know this? what is the evidence for it?
i covered this in the op, plus this isn't a problem for the manga
what logic is that? this has nothing to do with infinite universe stuff, merely how we accept the db universe to be shaped
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why so heated? take a breath dude, no need to use this tone here
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I didn't say anything about proposing a new map to use instead.
My vote is in favor of removing the currently used map, and the calcs based on it.
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Excuse my language, please.
There is no ******* new map model.
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I'm good and you? I'm just at work ;-;
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"The Other World and the Demon Realm and the World of the Kai are not shown. Does that mean that they do not exist?" No, just that they are not shown. They exist in separate dimensions.
Should we be able to see the Room of Spirit and Time, too?
Should we be able to see the Room of Spirit and Time, too?
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Pretty much, the problem lies here......
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you know that this was covered in the op right?
here check it in the op
1.1: there is nothing to say that they would be visible in the first place, the only thing that would suggest that they would is the macrocosm map and the guides, which isn't a good counter since what it is shown in the main cannon always takes priority over secondary cannon like the guides, so they not appearing is not a counter argument since they have no stated size whatsoever in the main canon of dbs, and things like guides are only secondary cannon with anything of the main cannon taking priority over it
1.2: even if you want to hard take the dimensions as needing to be visible however, we can clearly see multiple massive cosmic like objects in the map, so to say that some of them are the other dimensions is not too far fetched of an assumption, specially when we know that we are seeing the universe
there is for the anime
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The purpose of the thread is not to disregard the existence of the visual itself, as the diagram is illustrated in the manga, but to disregard the usage of the visual in calculations and scaling.
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Wouldn’t this contradict the premise of the accepted calc? Assuming they traveled X distance to a “separate dimension”? You can’t use the map as if these different realms exist on top of each other, that’s clearly not the case.
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it isn't a problem tho, we just use the basic assumption of the observable universe and then estimate the other dimensions based on what we see of them, example, they all are at least big enough to have a star, this is just an example of course
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Well, neutral for now. I Will just watch, however.
This will turn into the typical 30 pages DB CRT, I can feel it, this won't end well...
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Exactly why it shouldn't be used.
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Omega is just trying to get the DB Universe downgraded to snake size, take it easy lolWell, neutral for now. I Will just watch, however.
This will turn into the typical 30 pages DB CRT, I can feel it, this won't end well...
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Out of curiosity, is it unanimous agreement that DB has a closed "universe" cosmology for Universe 7?
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what do you mean by this?
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Stop filling the thread with pointless jokes.Trying to get it to 5-C now, 5-C Beerus let's gooooo
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Bro you guys are literally arguing infinite U7 in a staff thread…
talk about repetitive arguments lmao
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like is there agreement that Universe 7 is a closed spherical space on the wiki? (spatially only)
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Unironically, if we disregard the map it gives more credence to the arguments of the Afterlife being a 5D realm
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How so bro?
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Yes pretty much, by now @Damage3245 agrees, we just need two more Staff votes.
But I'm wondering how this will play out in Super's scaling tbh.
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That's perfect, let's level up another world to 5D
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not really? i mean, that is the current proposal for the anime as i pointed in the op of this thread, so we will have to wait
stop, this thread is not for this, do not talk about any other topic that isn't in the op's proposals, don't make this thread longer than it needs to be
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What did Damage say about pointless jokes, Toby?
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