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Two threads were made separating the Super Perfect Cell feat from regular physicals, we don't know how Damage is gonna handle it so for now we'll just scale the characters without the feat
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Ahhh. Though I thought that the Buu Saga SSJ2+ characters would scale to/above it directly? Given how firmly established how they’re above SSJ2 Teen Gohan and SP. Cell they are?
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It's vague, they're only established to be "stronger than Gohan" nothing more, it can just infer that they're overall stronger, as in both on a physical basis and with charged attacks
Would be dumb to assume Vegeta or other characters thought Gohan's kamehameha is equal to his physicals, or that he can't differentiate either
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Last thing I remember is the proposal from others was that SSJ3 Goku would scale directly to/above it due to him having unprecedented levels of Ki.
But I'm waiting until the prior sagas are settled from the current ongoing revisions before I re-open that topic.
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Well debunk thread I made has been done, check out Goku's raditz/saiyan/namek saga keys
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head, starting his great...
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Speaking of, Damage, since I now have the time to add DBS Bardock’s profile, how do I do whilst also connecting him to the “Articles About” tab?
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Anyone can post a new page you can do that; I'll update the template for Bardock.
If you click the red link on here, you can paste the contents of the new page ehre.
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Done. Though I anticipated him to just be named “Super” instead of Manga due to the fact he’s got information from Dragon Ball Minus, Dragon Ball Super: Broly, and the Dragon Ball Super Manga.
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Alright. Renamed the page to be: Bardock (DBS Manga) to be consistent with othetr DBS manga pages.
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I mean Minus was way before super, I think Manga makes enough sense
Also I think other profiles like Goku Black, Grand Priest & Jiren should just be "Manga"/"Anime" not "DBS Manga"/"DBS Anime" since they don't appear in anything outside of DBS anime except for Super Hero which is a non-issue
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Oh, it wasn’t a complaint—I had just anticipated it following with the other naming conventions of DBS Characters (especially since DBS Bardock is a retcon, as Toriyama stated in interview he had canonized Father of Goku into his Manga {meaning the Toei Bardock reference wasn’t just an Easter Egg, and legitimately his origin in the Original Series/Z} many years before he altered his origin in 2013 in Jaco the Patrolman.)
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wait so what exactly were the disagreements about?
Infinite universe DB Redux
Yep, we're bringing infinite universe back, I don't think the old counterarguments really hold up, so I made a blog explaining why infinite universe is actually correct and should be added back to the cosmology. Please do not discuss other things, such as what characters scale, ratings, etc...vsbattles.com
Killerdrone123
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We were shown visually that it has an edge during u6 vs u7 arc
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Reality oftentimes can be disappointing…
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Where's the thread for upgrading Frieza?
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The thread for upgrading Frieza's Planet Vegeta calc is here:
DBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
So this is the currently used calc for Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, it assumes that Vegeta is the size of earth, however this blog has now put forth a baseline for an average Planet in dragon ball using canon information The calculation for planet Vegeta is identical with one except, the...
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Super Shenron's summoning is a zoom out that shows the universe's literal appearencence, with said ligh even physically interacting with them as the scene goes on
this woul imply that the universes are not even low 2-C as they physically appear 3-A, this is the implication of such agreement at least, will make a thread about it later
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That's impossible, since a 3-A universe is literally timeless. Visuals aren't to be taken literally unless Goku is now galaxy sized.
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in that case, the infinite universe thread staff agreed that the depiction in the u6 tournament arc was the literal appearence of them
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That's an appeal to authority,first. not everything staff says is true. One of them was also a calc member/content mod or whatever, which has as much value as a blue member, voting wise.
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Third, most of these depictions show things like 3-C sized universes, the lack of an afterlife, Kai realm etc. which are clearly not consistent with 99% of in-verse information. Fourth,some of them aren't even meant to be taken literally and are just for explanation purposes.
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my dude what i am saying is, if the wiki accepted that as the literal appearece to say "no" to infinite universe, then they would also need to accept it to say "no" to tier 2 as well, one needs consistency in beliefs
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Consistency is not a thing on VBW. You know that,lol. It's all about favoritism, as much as people don't like to hear that.
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about this galaxy argument......no? i don't a singular galaxy in the u6 scene
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Yeah, I was mentioning a previous scene.
You're right,I usually don't break down my comments like that. I'm in a hurry, 'cause I gotta catch the bus.
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Wait, the thread is closed, has it been agreed upon?The thread for upgrading Frieza's Planet Vegeta calc is here:
There isn't one on his Namek feat yetDBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
So this is the currently used calc for Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, it assumes that Vegeta is the size of earth, however this blog has now put forth a baseline for an average Planet in dragon ball using canon information The calculation for planet Vegeta is identical with one except, the...
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Will this get edited then?
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No we have to wait until the solar system scaling stuff gets sorted
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I did mention this in thread. The claim was that these depictions were “abstractions” of the Universe and that it visually would look like as shown in U6vU7, which I attempted to refute by pointing out how in DB:Kai, DBZ (Toei), and DBS (Manga) all treat the Universe’s appearance as literal replications of the Cosmological Map (though obviously not “to scale” visually given Snake Way, the Kaio Planets, etc.)
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When is it shown in Kai? I understand Toei and DBS Manga but I don't recall for Kai
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One of the Episode Title shots, I believe. But if you want to see it visually, here.
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that is impossible, you can't say that a major part of appearence(size and location of structures and the dimensions) is not literal while saying that it is the literal representation, that is self contradictory
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"Appeal to authority" is not a fallacy that works here.
Since the whole vsbattle is about that. Like, everyone calling it DT or Ultima.
The whole vsbattle is about this.
Man, that reminds me of a few things...
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Have you seen a model of the Solar System?
You can clearly see the planets, and the Sun.
But it’s obviously not to scale, because the Sun is so much more massive than Earth or the Moon or Mars that it’s not conceivable to make it as much larger than it needs to be over those other celestial objects outside of just being decently larger/the largest sphere.
However, the model is still visually accurate. The planets are still spheres. The Sun is still in the center. The Earth is still made of water and land. So while the SIZES are NOT TO SCALE, it is STILL an ACCURATE and LITERAL VISUAL representation of the Universe’s APPEARANCE.
Which you have ALREADY AGREED TO in your OWN THREAD on this you linked to me prior. Like I said before, what you are mentioning is IRRELEVANT and you are disagreeing to disagree.
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Where can I join that thread?
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