The thread for upgrading Frieza's Planet Vegeta calc is here:
Super Shenron's summoning is a zoom out that shows the universe's literal appearencence, with said ligh even physically interacting with them as the scene goes on
That's impossible, since a 3-A universe is literally timeless. Visuals aren't to be taken literally unless Goku is now galaxy sized.
in that case, the infinite universe thread staff agreed that the depiction in the u6 tournament arc was the literal appearence of them
That's an appeal to authority,first. not everything staff says is true. One of them was also a calc member/content mod or whatever, which has as much value as a blue member, voting wise.
Third, most of these depictions show things like 3-C sized universes, the lack of an afterlife, Kai realm etc. which are clearly not consistent with 99% of in-verse information. Fourth,some of them aren't even meant to be taken literally and are just for explanation purposes.
my dude what i am saying is, if the wiki accepted that as the literal appearece to say "no" to infinite universe, then they would also need to accept it to say "no" to tier 2 as well, one needs consistency in beliefs
Consistency is not a thing on VBW. You know that,lol. It's all about favoritism, as much as people don't like to hear that.
about this galaxy argument......no? i don't a singular galaxy in the u6 scene
Yeah, I was mentioning a previous scene.
Wait, the thread is closed, has it been agreed upon?The thread for upgrading Frieza's Planet Vegeta calc is here:
There isn't one on his Namek feat yetDBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
So this is the currently used calc for Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, it assumes that Vegeta is the size of earth, however this blog has now put forth a baseline for an average Planet in dragon ball using canon information The calculation for planet Vegeta is identical with one except, the...vsbattles.com
Will this get edited then?
No we have to wait until the solar system scaling stuff gets sorted
I did mention this in thread. The claim was that these depictions were “abstractions” of the Universe and that it visually would look like as shown in U6vU7, which I attempted to refute by pointing out how in DB:Kai, DBZ (Toei), and DBS (Manga) all treat the Universe’s appearance as literal replications of the Cosmological Map (though obviously not “to scale” visually given Snake Way, the Kaio Planets, etc.)
When is it shown in Kai? I understand Toei and DBS Manga but I don't recall for Kai
One of the Episode Title shots, I believe. But if you want to see it visually, here.
that is impossible, you can't say that a major part of appearence(size and location of structures and the dimensions) is not literal while saying that it is the literal representation, that is self contradictory
"Appeal to authority" is not a fallacy that works here.
Man, that reminds me of a few things...
Have you seen a model of the Solar System?
Where can I join that thread?
But not the countless asteroids, colorful gasses and what not there is, it is just a representation, not what ot actually looks like
Thus why they are not what the solar system look like, just serving to represent them in a simplyfied manner
it isn't
You can't say that it is a simplyfied representation while saying that it is how it litterally looks like, that is again, self contradicting, your solar system model allegory doesn't have any value herr since it also isn't an literal representation of what the solar system looks like
i didn't, i never did, and the recent rejected threads only comfirms what i always said there
No it isn't when it is the basis for the infinite universe thread to have been rejected, trying to dismiss counters to your argument by saying they are "irrelevant" never works, drop it
Plan on doing that later
Oh so thats where the image is from, I might see it if I rewatch the series
The thread hasn't happened yet
Dragon ball is just built different here
Wrd. We got regular humans having higher tiers than the super powered alien that can transform.
It is what the objects chosen to be depicted look like, which is the point.
I don’t think having a visually accurate outside of size model means that the visual accuracy becomes irrelevant, sorry.
It very clearly is. In Kai, DBS: Manga, and Toei Anime.
We literally see the Universe straight on twice (Kai and DBS Manga) and it’s visually identical to the model. It’s not an “abstraction.” It’s not “simplified.” It is the literal appearance of the universe in those instances. To deny that is to literally purposely ignore evidence.
It’s literally in your OP.
It is entirely irrelevant. We are talking visual accuracy ignoring the clear size inconsistency of the model. What the universe specifically, and ONLY, looks like without size AT ALL in the question. This is SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE we are comparing the U6vU7 Universe appearance (which also can’t really be to scale, as it would make the universes vastly smaller than we know they are, as pointed out), to that of the cosmological model repeatedly used and shown to be literal in other Dragon Ball mediums.
Valid ong.
i don't agree with using that either, i have made that clear, that doesn't mean that the other VERY WRONG OPTION isn't also horribly wrong
