- 1,541
- 1,714
The current calc is the best one, though. The whole Solar System nets less, ironically.The current calc we usedoesn’t even account for destroying the entire Solar System either!
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The current calc is the best one, though. The whole Solar System nets less, ironically.The current calc we usedoesn’t even account for destroying the entire Solar System either!
Want to get it downgraded?The current calc we usedoesn’t even account for destroying the entire Solar System either!
Damage. Damage. Add my Bardock paaage. (I can’t right now.)Want to get it downgraded?
I mean, that lies in the same realm of Vegeta’s “planetary” Final Flash flying off and bopping off the map (what ONLY LOOKS LIKE a star) and not affecting anyone nearby, doesn’t it?Also, a little weird—the calculation assumes that the Solar Kamehameha would have exploded on Earth and then just consumed the entire solar system (like the game suggests), but, like, the Father-Son Kamehameha bulldozes right through Cell and detonates without taking out the solar system. Hell, neither did Vegeta's Final Explosion.
The calculation relies on a measurement of destruction capacity that isn't at all consistent with the manga.
This video goes over it perfectly.
Actually, no... I had quickly calced the AP to destroy the Solar System from the Sun to Pluto (which would be what Toriyama was thinking of by Solar System, and likely what he was thinking that the blast would do) and it’s either 394.7860 Kilofoe using the Perihelion to 1062.7838 KiloFoe using the AphihelionThe current calc is the best one, though. The whole Solar System nets less, ironically.
ngl the blast might have just flown off into planet without actually hitting anything if it just went straight forwardHey,
During Beam Struggles, the involved energy blasts only ever explode (1) when matched with an equal force (1)(2).
Otherwise, the weaker attack is reflected (1)(2)(3), envelops the loser of the clash (1)(2)(3), and proceeds forward (1), even escaping into space (1)(2)(3).
Judging by the direction of the Z-Fighters's shadows in chapter 221, pg. 2 (their shadows extend by their right side), chapter 221, pg. 10 establishes that the Sun,—which shadows protrude in the opposite direction of, being their primary light source,—is to Piccolo's left. Cell is on Piccolo's left.
The blast could have potentially extended outward beyond Earth and exploded atop Mars (2.4328063 KiloFOE) or even Neptune (954.010922 KiloFOE).
How so? The ability is explained fine, but the contradictions show how it is clearly inconsistent based on what is explained.literally proves the stigma that jojo fans don't read
Actually, how did this calc end up being lost the shuffleYou could only apply that If Tao exerted something like 995 metric tons casually, them it would be reasonable enough to upscale
Because there isn't any contradictions, at no point does King Crimson actually break its rulesHow so? The ability is explained fine, but the contradictions show how it is clearly inconsistent based on what is explained.
Actually, how did this calc end up being lost the shuffle
You sure?that seems kinda outliery for that point in time
Case and point, that's like 8x lower.
Isn’t Diavolo’s blood splattering on Pol literally a prime example, since nothing Diavolo does is allowed to affect others as it’s about Fate? As the ad hoc explanation for how he affects others despite being intangible is “Fate still playing out,” (which then runs into questionable scenes based on lack of reactions, or then makes the noticing of Time Skip weird because logically it wouldn’t feel out of place), and thus still create a contradiction? Or am I missing something?Because there isn't any contradictions, at no point does King Crimson actually break its rules
Hell half that video ignores sup material too, as if it doesn't explain how it works in detail because nobody seems to comprehend it
It's just mfs not paying attention, as usual, wouldn't be the first time, or 10th, or hell even 50th time
It's still in the same ballpark of Class M though, and Ozaru Goku did that pretty casually all things consideredCase and point, that's like 8x lower.
Um, shouldn't this discussion happen here?Isn’t Diavolo’s blood splattering on Pol literally a prime example, since nothing Diavolo does is allowed to affect others as it’s about Fate? As the ad hoc explanation for how he affects others despite being intangible is “Fate still playing out,” (which then runs into questionable scenes based on lack of reactions, or then makes the noticing of Time Skip weird because logically it wouldn’t feel out of place), and thus still create a contradiction? Or am I missing something?
I mean, not really. Despite being the Dragon Ball thread you can still talk about other things. It’s just primarily Dragon Ball focused.Um, shouldn't this discussion happen here?
Apparently, JOJOVELLER says Diavolo can interact with his blood, as it's an extension of his body, hence why the blood never actually touched Polneraff until time resumed, like how DIO can still throw knives or blind Jotaro with his own blood during stopped time; effectively, he's just readjusting himself like usual.Isn’t Diavolo’s blood splattering on Pol literally a prime example, since nothing Diavolo does is allowed to affect others as it’s about Fate?
No? That was never a rule? He just can not physically touch them himself.Isn’t Diavolo’s blood splattering on Pol literally a prime example, since nothing Diavolo does is allowed to affect others as it’s about Fate?
That is quite literally why yes.As the ad hoc explanation for how he affects others despite being intangible is “Fate still playing out,”
What reactions? They state no less than a dozen times that nothing is aware of what transpired when time was gone. What would they be reacting to? once time resumes they'd have no recollection of it, and even when time is gone they wouldn't because it's explicitly noted nothing is cognizant but Diavolo and is just fate playing out. Hell they state no less than 4 times the world and everything in it momentarily ceases to exist (which is why he's "intangible", it isn't that he's intangible, it's that he's the only thing that ISN'T. He directly states that the world being deleted is why shit phases through him in the manga itself).(which then runs into questionable scenes based on lack of reactions,
It makes perfect sense? Their consciousness isn't aware of what happened? not only because, little known fact everyone seems to ignore, the "characters" you see in time skip, aren't actually them, it's images created by Epitaph, as explained in the guide, and directly alluded to in his debut, which loops back around in why he can't interact with them directly till time resumes, but is the case explicitly because time is gone so events can't actually happen, and it's just his ability superimposing shit so he'd know what would happen and act accordinglyor then makes the noticing of Time Skip weird because logically it wouldn’t feel out of place),
A lot apparentlyand thus still create a contradiction? Or am I missing something?
More or less yeah. I can literally post it too, I own that shitApparently, JOJOVELLER says Diavolo can interact with his blood, as it's an extension of his body, hence why the blood never actually touched Polneraff until time resumed, like how DIO can still throw knives or blind Jotaro with his own blood during stopped time; effectively, he's just readjusting himself like usual.
This is correct, we shouldn't derail any further.Um, shouldn't this discussion happen here?
Did he though? Kinda hard to tell if what he did was casual or not given beeg angry monkey.It's still in the same ballpark of Class M though, and Ozaru Goku did that pretty casually all things considered
Want to get it downgraded?
Actually, no... I had quickly calced the AP to destroy the Solar System from the Sun to Pluto (which would be what Toriyama was thinking of by Solar System, and likely what he was thinking that the blast would do) and it’s either 394.7860 Kilofoe using the Perihelion to 1062.7838 KiloFoe using the Aphihelion
Your dragon ball?Upgrades?! In my Dragon Ball?!
Yes, I own the verse nowYour dragon ball?
Who else here is named Dragon?Your dragon ball?
Who else here is named Dragon?
@Damage3245 How much of Dragon Ball's Earth is covered by land? Any images of the globe are rather inconsistent from one another:
I take that with a grain a salt since when we irl try to flatten our own globe into a rectangular map, we end up stretching a distorting what it actually looks like. And also the land is pretty much a blob, hard to find the land area, let alone the percentage of land coverage, from itJust use the final one given it's an official map that's been rehashed multiple times since (aka the intended layout).
Well, yeah, but this is a mangaI take that with a grain a salt since when we irl try to flatten our own globe into a rectangular map, we end up stretching a distorting what it actually looks like. And also the land is pretty much a blob, hard to find the land area, let alone the percentage of land coverage, from it
How so?Bout to start chaos, the natural order of all things.
HatHow so?