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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

What happened to the GP stuff we were talking about mainly the immortal negation (?).
 
Veronica said:
It's linced by both Toei and Shuasha and its promoted on DB official site.
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I mean of course it's licensed and promoted, how else do you think they got permission to make stickers based off a copyrighted franchise? Toei and Shueisha also promote and license Super Dragon Ball Heroes, but that doesn't mean it's canon or what's said there applies to the canon media.
 
Veronica said:
Yes, and he uses BOTH SSG POWER and god-ki to create SSB as mentioned in the transformation description. We have seen him training to obtain god-ki to create SSB, when he sparred with Vegeta. Goku can't go regular SSJ with SSG power in base, as the anime and movie both call SSB, THE SSJ form. That's why when Frieza asks "Go SSJ" Later Goku goes SSJ and what do we see? It's SSB not yellow SSJ. Finally god-ki doesn't even raise your Power Level, so a weird argument. No, the idea that regular SSJ increases SSG power is fan-fiction what no evidence behind it.
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ReaperAndBlues said:
Anyways, I don't wanna really bother anyone about this (since it will be a while until this CRT gets off the ground) but what are your thoughts on Extraordinary Genius in combat for Goku?
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I'd say Genius for sure. Not Extraordinary Genius.
 
Damage3245 said:
I'd say Genius for sure. Not Extraordinary Genius.
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Based on the criteria for Extraordinary Genius, Goku definitely should imo considering Zoro and Mihawk did off of one statement. Typically EG combat people are that because they have achieved a state or a feat that is beyond that of other geniuses (Ultra Instinct for Goku, Goken for Zoro and Mihawk). UI was a technique that even Beerus couldn't do, and that's considering that he is trained by basically the most skilled teacher of U7 for hundreds of millions of years. Goku did it in under 48 minutes, and also is THE only mortal to have ever done so.
 
RedReaper said:
What would you say qualifies for Extraordinary Genius when it comes to Martial Arts skill/knowledge/battle intelligence?
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RedReaper said:
What would you say qualifies for Extraordinary Genius when it comes to Martial Arts skill/knowledge/battle intelligence?
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Having a feat that is massively superior to other geniuses that they could never hope to achieve. That and also I guess vast knowledge of combat (both Goku has done). Or beating a supercomputer like Ash.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Based on the criteria for Extraordinary Genius, Goku definitely should imo considering Zoro and Mihawk did off of one statement. Typically EG combat people are that because they have achieved a state or a feat that is beyond that of other geniuses (Ultra Instinct for Goku, Goken for Zoro and Mihawk). UI was a technique that even Beerus couldn't do, and that's considering that he is trained by basically the most skilled teacher of U7 for hundreds of millions of years. Goku did it in under 48 minutes, and also is THE only mortal to have ever done so.
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If that's the case then goku (anime) should definitely have it.
roshi in manga too
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Having a feat that is massively superior to other geniuses that they could never hope to achieve. That and also I guess vast knowledge of combat (both Goku has done). Or beating a supercomputer like Ash.
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Wouldn't REQUIRING a Supercomputer to work 20 years to achieve the results gained from Cell (combat experience, intelligence, etc.) be similar to this? Also, Cell's personality/mind and whatnot was specifically designed by the Supercomputer to be the perfect weapon. So maybe you could use that?
 
Shouldnt Ssj3 also grant EG? Unless I am massively misunderstanding the rules, it should be fine.
 
So.... how many pages are you willing to bet this CRT'S gonna be? And how many Re:Zero people do you bet are gonna jump in saying "nuh uh" about Goku's feats?
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Fezzih, you deal with Re:Zero people, would you say Goku could realistically get EG in combat? (Refer to above comment)
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Well, If we compare to Re:ZERO top tiers in term of skill, Goku really don't go there in terms with his feats, but he probally not that far behind.

If he compare the two, Goku really don't stack up to EG, he is inferior.
 
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