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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

It will be a whole lot of mess if E of frieza saga, cell saga and buu saga are all at solar system level.
 
Ryzen7900X said:
pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A

also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek
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Nah, make that the new baseline planet size due to being a "small planet" and upgrade everyone GG
 
Ryzen7900X said:
pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.
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Not exactly, he just said it wasn't too big a planet iirc, not that it was small, he could've seen bigger ones, planet Vegeta for example was called enormous in the broly novelization that null posted in the Vegeta downgrade attempt. It's definitely larger than an average one tho
Ryzen7900X said:
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A
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Meh, that calc would not be accepted here tbh, the speed of the blast there was calced at ftl (1.3E9m/s), KE wouldn't work
Ryzen7900X said:
also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek
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Maybe so
 
Jaakor48 said:
Not exactly, he just said it wasn't too big a planet iirc, not that it was small, he could've seen bigger ones, planet Vegeta for example was called enormous in the broly novelization that null posted in the Vegeta downgrade attempt. It's definitely larger than an average one tho
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That might upgrade the size of planet Vegeta even more lmao
Jaakor48 said:
Meh, that calc would not be accepted here tbh, the speed of the blast there was calced at ftl (1.3E9m/s), KE wouldn't work
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pretty sure we could still use relativistic KE with the manga version
 
Jaakor48 said:
Unless they got the speed directly from the manga itself and it was relativistic, won't be allowed either
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if you used the manga version for the size of the explosion and the time frame from Kai I’m pretty sure it comes out to relativistic

on that note we might actually get a higher value given the sheer number of scans we have to justify the size too. 4-B SSJ Goku doesn’t sound bad
 
Ryzen7900X said:
if you used the manga version for the size of the explosion and the time frame from Kai I’m pretty sure it comes out to relativistic
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Do we even have a manga Namek explosion calc? I mean, no one has definitely made an accepted calculation of its size alone let alone the manga destruction
 
Hmm i dont know about damage, cos he mostly hold back his punches. So uh? Genius?
 
Jaakor48 said:
Do we even have a manga Namek explosion calc? I mean, no one has definitely made an accepted calculation of its size alone let alone the manga destruction
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i don’t think we do because no one really cared to but with this it might warrant a calc too now. 4-B SSJ Goku is too good to pass up
 
ScalingRandomVerse said:
LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good. 🫤
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Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.

Edit: they're giving him a warning, but a light one at best, not even a stern one.
 
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The concept of a retcon must be something new to the staff. You can post mountains of evidence of a retcon, but BaTlE Of GoDss!! Yes all the evidence shows it got retconned AFTER that during U6 arc.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.

Edit: they're giving him a warning, but a light one at best, not even a stern one.
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Damn for real? Like I get some peeps will simply never get along but I was hoping it'll be an extreme last restort (I didn't even know that actually got implemented when I commented on the RVR).

Hopefully everyone involved in that debate debacle can move on, speaking of which...
ScalingRandomVerse said:
There are currently 8 db threads running.
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^THIS seriously needs to be addressed.
 
"MuH BaTle Of GoDS" after seeing 10 pages of the retcon after it. "buT MuH bAtLe Of GoDs" shows SSJ is never shown as 50x SSG only SSB is called that, "MuuUuHh BaTlE oF GoDS!!" BoG doesn't even show SSJ being 50x SSG Lmao
 
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Veronica said:
"MuH BaTle Of GoDS" after seeing 10 pages of the retcon after it. "buT MuH bAtLe Of GoDs" shows SSJ is never shown as 50x SSG only SSB is called that, "MuuUuHh BaTlE oF GoDS!!" BoG doesn't even show SSJ being 50x SSG Lmao
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Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.
 
RedReaper said:
Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.
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That's SSG power growing in his SSJ form. Now show me SSJ making SSG 50x stronger in BoG, you can't. He can only do that with SSB as shown in RoF.
 
Ryzen7900X said:
no you need a minimum amount of gravity to become a star or else they’d be what we call “brown dwarfs” or “super-jupiter” type planets. it’s actually impossible for them to be smaller than a red dwarf star unless it’s stated somewhere

and if we assume they’re at least red dwarf stars (doesn’t look like it but eh) then Namek is extremely large by that measure
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Ok but bulma and I assume the namek children would die under these conditions
 
Veronica said:
That's SSG power growing in his SSJ form. Now show me SSJ making SSG 50x stronger in BoG, you can't. He can only do that with SSB as shown in RoF.
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If he's SSG level in base already, then going SSJ inherently makes him 50 times stronger. What kind of logic is this?
 
ToP Goku needs SSJ to defeat Buu Saga tiers as his base power got retconned.
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"NooOOo MuHuuH BaTt oFff GoOOds, sO BaSiL aNd BuU HunReDs oF TiMEs StROnGER tHaN SsG gOku!!!!!!"

Akira and Toei would laugh at your if you suggested something so wrong based on misunderstanding.
 
RedReaper said:
If he's SSG level in base already, then going SSJ inherently makes him 50 times stronger. What kind of logic is this?
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Except the SSJ in RoF is SSB and not regular yellow SSJ that multiplies his base by 50x. As going SSJ on SSG power base creates SSB. Since SSB is SSG power + god-ki and regular SSJ is none of that.
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Still going on about this alleged "retcon?" You're quite literally just wrong on this and are misinterpreting the source material to fit this agenda - and your attempts to enforce this have all been rejected nigh-unanimously.
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Show me that regular SSJ is 50x SSG power.
 
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