Eden_Warlock99
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There's kinda a limit to how small they can go tho
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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If we assume Namek is normal planet sized, the suns would be like, country-sized maximum.
We know Namek is bigger than earth so if the assumption is Namek is earth-lv, that's not inherently true, and given we know it's bigger, we don't exactly have a cap or baseline either, and we know Namek's suns are orange suns so they can't be like dwarf stars.
Also given DBZ has bigger than star planets already like Kaioshin Planet, idk, Namek might just be big af, I don't think it really affects anyone either way so shrug, might boost the Spirit Bomb a lil, bout it
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Not really when it comes to fiction... One of the calcs proposed earlier would have had Namek being over three times wider than our own Sun. If we can suspend our disbelief for that, why can't we suspend our disbelief for the size of the stars?
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Well I suppose it's because as opposed to assuming Namek is much larger, assuming the stars are much smaller is not exactly feasible since there's a limit to how small stars can be.
For Namek being larger, it's just a matter of "there's no way that makes sense." For stars being smaller, it's "there's no way it makes sense" AND "this can't even happen from a scientific standpoint"
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there is a limit to how small a star can be
Eden_Warlock99
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If we use same method from this old Toei calc, it ends up being 7.5897072e+26 Joules, as in Multi-Continent level, and that's with average planet size
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we can only do that when we have proof for it. If you do have proof for smaller-than-moon sized stars then yes we can believe that too
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to be fair a larger than star sized rocky planet is also not scientifically feasible, it would be crushed under its own gravity and implode. Only reason stars can get so big without imploding is because of the outwards pressure created by the force of the nuclear fusion inside their cores, when that pressure stops you get supernovae as the star collapses in on itself
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Because we know Namek is big.
We have no reason to assume the yellow stars are actually small.
If, they said Namek was small, or even normal, ok, but they don't, on the other hand, we know stuff like earth is minuscule.
Additionally, you'd think they'd mention the suns is tiny, but they never do, they just go "oh right it has 3 suns, is tidally locked, and is never night" and as a planet it's bigger than earth, in fact, earth is tiny comparatively. So from the get go we know Namek is, inherently, larger than earth, so limiting it down to average planet sized fundamentally doesn't make sense, but if we know it isn't limited to average, and hell, given we know suns can't go below a threshold...
Plus, Supreme Kai planet exists so we know stupid shit like this is possible. Now right off the bat, I disagree with Frieza scaling to it, but even if he did it wouldn't be much of an upgrade, if at all, it being that big and only 1g implies it ain't exactly that dense. Best we looking at might be the 50m Spirit Bomb, which wouldn't do much beyond a baseline feat to corroborate the extreme amount of multipliers being abused.
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DB really needs supporting feats, all of DBZ is based on two feats lol
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that wouldn't prove anything
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Problem is that virtually all the current supporting feats are far below where the characters would be rated with multipliers & powerscaling, or below the original two feats.
Closest we get to on-screen feats of destruction these days are Beerus and Champa casually kicking planets to rubble.
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No, but it does prove it is built diff if upon core destruction the planet becomes unable to hold its form, and "violently explodes". Now is that the same, no. But, it's definitely something odd with it.
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Im not seeing how that proves anything. Also if core destruction is really going to be accepted then most of DBZ gets downgraded to below 5-B
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Namek is definitely like that cause of Dragon Ball Wishes
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I mean, the Dimension Shatter is a pretty good Uni feat, since it’s specifically the outcome of what happens when more energy than the Universe can TAKE is released inside it.
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No?
We just had a thread about this, Namek, quite literally, the odd one out. Given Frieza, King Kai, etc explain what happens, and then they sit there for 5 minutes.
That ain't the same as Vegeta tanking
Vegeta saying he'd just straight up dust earth.
PL of 10k being able to planet bust (Vegeta is like 18k, 24k, etc).
Like, literal thousands of multiplications off 5-C to low 5-B shit.
The very spirit bomb Frieza tanked on Namek making a larger than planet sized explosion.
By Vegeta, they're well into 5-B and beyond.
I could go on, Namek, is the exception, and one, that isn't even used given DBZ scales basically solely off 5-B Vegeta, 5-A Planet Vegeta, and 4-B Cell.
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Didn’t the Namek one come from the whole Solar System?
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Implied other planets too, but the fact the earth one was just earth and the sun, and it was miniscule to what namek alone can do, is kinda wacky all the same.
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Namek is a Big Planet
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I'd pick a panel we actually see all 3 suns in, that way we know at least one of them is parallel or in the foreground.Namek is a Big Planet
Picking a panel with only 1-2 suns means both could be in the background, and as such, treating it like they're both at the same dept won't work.
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sublight frieza because the light from the attack reflected off the water before the attack hit said water
it's over bros
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Man that Super Saiyan panel looks so raw
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Sublight Goku Black & Zamasu getting blindsided by a Solar Flare.
Why doesn't anyone ever just close their eyes?
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Wait, didn't 50% Frieza purposely hold back so as not to nuke the entire thing? And he noted he could destroy the entire planet of he actual wanted?
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Maybe the attack speed of the Solar Flare just cover the area faster than they can react?
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He held back, but that doesnt mean if he didnt the planet would have instantly popped either. I just went through the arc, the best we got is Goku saying if Frieza wanted, he could have attacked the planet again and destroyed it, but that was after it had aready been destabilized by the core shit.
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omg just like rhcp
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you have infinite speed light in Saint seiya so why not
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If it’s got the feats…
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