Oliver_de_jesus
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Ok, since Cell in Fortnite is official, can we add this in his Gallery?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Ok, since Cell in Fortnite is official, can we add this in his Gallery?
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I believe, I just saw Fortnite my eyes cried blood
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I don't understand why ki manipulation is not yet accepted as soul manipulation...
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In the manga there is a quote about Ki being the user's own soul, so technically they should gain soul manipulation by the limited
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All that's left is for someone to try to make a crt to join soul manipulation, the blog didn't cover that.
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I’ve seen Naruto have it for having spiritual energy, so maybe since the spiritual side is apart of ki it could be soul manipulation. Also, we see in the dbs manga that souls are apart of ki. So I’ll probably look into soul manip for DB.
Vietthai96
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Let not rush thing, remember that there is effort people put in these work, everything need to be planned accordingly
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Moro, who by absorbing vital energy/ki, also absorbed the souls of those he affected with his power is a clear example, just as the Yadratian previously explained to Vegeta that Ki was the manipulation of the spirit among other things.
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I agree, even the most obvious thing can be rejected if it is not cooked properly.
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Wouldn't time stop/time skip resistance and resistance to absolute zero also be a property of Kai at 2c and above? Goku using KK annulled the effects of time skip, Jiren's resistance of time stop was attributed to his power, Vegeta likewise completely resisted AZ when he went ssj,
In my opinion, there appear to be 2 forms of destruction, power of destruction and energy of destruction. POD seems to be the more hax version, doesn't travel, the target just vanishes, EOD seems to be the ki based one, and it's power can be regulated on a target, sidra have a weakened version, Toppo's version was much stronger than that one but still non lethal
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Are the powers to manipulate hit timing layered?
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Goku when he was a child was very evil and ended up killing his enemies
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He murdered almost the entire red patrol, he was bloodthirsty as a child
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It was android 8 who taught goku that killing is bad
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Yet he murked the entire Red Ribbon Army a few days later
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That guy straight up murdered his friends, Goku just became even more of an idiot in Z.
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KAMI'S EVIL INCARNATE?????
Killerdrone123
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I mean luffy is correct but he used some what of a wrong example
Spinoirr
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Self defense + fighting to survive is amoral
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He was learning and giving justifications for why not killing is not precisely that he does not kill his enemies for something like good or evil but rather to have future opponents to fight for as he explained it to Merus.
Killerdrone123
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Super murdered goku's character horribly
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Goku left a child an orphan
Killerdrone123
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I was going to quote goku's super saiyan speech but didn't dub change the original speech or something like that
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The thing is that people, depending on how they have consumed DB, such as anime or manga (as in my case), have a different perception of Goku's character since his actions and attitudes are expressed in different ways. Likewise, Goku has always had questionable actions but in Super he became a little more stupid and carefree.
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When Goku left Frezeer alive, what he wanted was for him to live a life of misery and shame knowing that the race he despised the most had defeated and humiliated him in a fight and even worse, he had spared his life.
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Morally, Goku has killed several people just out of anger and in Dragon Ball Super Super Hero it is mentioned that Goku killed members of the Red Ribbon Force
Spinoirr
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Goku purifies his intentions with martial arts, hence why he can kill without consequences unlike Vegeta as he isn't killing pure intentions like survival or self defense or to protect others
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Yeah the original dub tried to make Goku seem like a Hero, however in the manga and Z kai it was about him accepting being the super sayian
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Yes, I think Goku's arc in the early parts of Z is about him accepting his origins and taking an attitude more similar to his race as well as being a little more proud in certain aspects thanks to Vegeta.
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Worthy of a saiyajin
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I don't know, no explanation was given other than that Goku fought with the intention of enjoying the fights, surpassing himself, protecting his friends, etc. unlike Vegeta who wanted to show who was better along with his sadistic actions towards his opponents and some other things that I don't remember, he explains it when he accepts that Goku is number 1 in the Buu saga
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I said that the hakai energy was simply in the ki blast, you said the same
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Destructive Fissure is a ki blast that uses God Ki (PoD) instead of normal ki to form the attack. That’s what I said.
Vietthai96
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anyway, regardless of Hakai being Ki or not, it gonna be in it own page, so this debate is kinda moot
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No, it uses hakai alongside ki, that is what the deacription says
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This fight hakai= Ki will be infinite
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It says it’s a ki blast made ofhakai energy. Destructive Fission is a technique that makes a ki blast by using PoD ki instead of normal ki.
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