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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

I feel like you didn't really process what I was trying to explain before. The consequences of Black's actions are not affected. Black's actions influence the Present Timeline. Thus that past Zamasu, no matter what, cannot be erased, as he is a CONSEQUENCE of Black's arrival.
I am now not understanding, did you confuse and answered to the wrong point? I don't see how that connects to anything i said in the point you are quoting

I'm saying there's no contradiction in facts here.
Zeno's move isn't stated to affect the history of others.
Beerus' attack has no contradictions, Zamasu's history could not be touched thanks to the Time Ring. And people remember him because of it and how it protects his actions, and consequences.
And forcing the Timeline to split creates none, either.
Ok, let's focus on the context of the phrase i have been saying instead then

Which would still affect the Future. Which is the point.
It is also my point tho, a god killing another ignores the way timelines usually work, making your past affect your future instead of it spliting
 
Can't wait for new Kid Goku scaling in Dragon Ball Daima.

"Well you see, Kid Goku in Daima is stated to be as strong as his OG Kid self from the Original Series, and Daima Goku was able to blow up THREE steel walls, meaning that the old Kid Goku scaling has to be changed-"

Actually, once Daima drops, does Goku regain Blessed for that key? Since he got reset into a kid, or does it not count because he technically grew up?
Wasn’t the wish for him to survive to adulthood? He already has
 
I'm saying, Omega, that the "Past Versions" of Black aren't affected because of the Time Ring. There's not a contradiction and Gods killing Gods creating changes in time was specifically stated to be a space-time phenomena, not one of causalty.
 
I'm saying, Omega, that the "Past Versions" of Black aren't affected because of the Time Ring.
ok, i already conceded to that

There's not a contradiction and Gods killing Gods creating changes in time was specifically stated to be a space-time phenomena, not one of causalty.
......call it as you want, i also agreed with this, for me it is clear that the "effect" in question is for the timeline to not split, but instead working as one would imagine "past affecting future once altered" contrary to Dragon Ball's "past not affecting future once altered, instead a divergence happening making the timeline split"
 
Time ring range
 


Imagine arguing Naruto can sense killing intent from MUI Goku.

I don't even know why he did that.

Outsiders (in the sense of not being on a site with powerscaling rules like this) can invent and ignore anything.

Literally him putting up the image of Goku breaking Hit's pocket dimension and some guys doubting the feat.
 
I remember when we made a Game Naruto vs Goku Thread when he was still Low 2-C, and Goku loses, good times.
No one really was able to combat omega arguments.
come on, don't give me much credit, i don't want to rocs on me, what is a roc? no idea, just heard of it and i am using it because it sounds funny

......roc.....pffft
 
On the one hand not being capable of flying puts him at a severe disadvantage. He is also outranged. Luffy has no answer for telekinesis though Goku doesn't use it in character.
On the other hand he is immune to blunt force which limits Goku to beam attacks Kienzan which are all extremely telegraphic. His fighting style is also not martial arts based but rather comparable to Buu's fighting style which gave Goku a hard time. Future sight also hard counters Warp Kamehameha and God Bind.

IMO it could go either way. Both have win cons.
 
I think he means without multipliers.
Oh, then we have an argument. Both of them are growing as they fight, but Luffy is basically coated in armor, immune to bludgeoning, and can punch Goku's organs. Also, he can see the future, and detect Goku, and turn things into rubber. G5 would grab a Kamehameha and arc it back at him.
 
I think it would be very difficult for Luffy to overcome the automatic defenses of Goku's body even with his denial of durability since he has the barriers of auras, barriers, his automatic defense, high-level instinctive reaction, telekinesis, paralysis, BFR, attacks aerials, creation of illusions, the giant of light, BFR, Luffy could not know how strong Goku is thanks to his resistance to information analysis, also the red roc would not be as effective thanks to the fact that Goku can withstand high levels of temperature, Also the fact that Goku has a very broken analytical prediction but Luffy along with his precognition, type 8 immortality, regeneration, resurrection and resistance to forceful attacks makes things a little more difficult.
 
I think it would be very difficult for Luffy to overcome the automatic defenses of Goku's body even with his denial of durability since he has the barriers of auras, barriers, his automatic defense, high-level instinctive reaction, telekinesis, paralysis, BFR, attacks aerials, creation of illusions, the giant of light, BFR, Luffy could not know how strong Goku is thanks to his resistance to information analysis, also the red roc would not be as effective thanks to the fact that Goku can withstand high levels of temperature, Also the fact that Goku has a very broken analytical prediction but Luffy along with his precognition, type 8 immortality, regeneration, resurrection and resistance to forceful attacks makes things a little more difficult.
Luffy can't resurrect anymore, but his analytical prediction is pretty broken too.
 
And although it is not accepted here there is also the resistance to Uranai Baba's precognition that was supposedly alluded to in the Saiyan saga with Nappa and Vegeta, although I don't think it is valid but Uranai Baba's future vision was never used again so it's weird
 
Goku isn't literally immune to people seeing his movements and thinking about it.
he is capable of analyzing and copying techniques of others just by looking, completely understanding complex abilities. He is capable of anticipating an enemy's direction of movement based on this principle. Luffy has only been shown to copy techniques limited to skills done without supernatural abilities, as in superhuman physical techniques like the Soru, which consists of kicking the ground over 10 times in an instant in order to move at supernatural speeds It is similar to the analytical prediction of Goku as a child when he went to train with Karin or what he did against Roshi when he imitated all of his techniques just by seeing them in the first Tenkaichi Budokai to which Roshi decided to use the Suiken technique so that he would not predict his next attacks. to which Goku got used to creating the Saruken that was unpredictable for Roshi, those are things that are left out in Goku's profile
 
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