- 10,616
- 3,715
well, physical blows would be useless withe equal stats due to luffy's rubber body, outside of that i am really not sureAnd a VS of Goku and Luffy with equal statistics?
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well, physical blows would be useless withe equal stats due to luffy's rubber body, outside of that i am really not sureAnd a VS of Goku and Luffy with equal statistics?
No multipliersI think he means without multipliers.
Oh, then we have an argument. Both of them are growing as they fight, but Luffy is basically coated in armor, immune to bludgeoning, and can punch Goku's organs. Also, he can see the future, and detect Goku, and turn things into rubber. G5 would grab a Kamehameha and arc it back at him.I think he means without multipliers.
Nope.Don’t multipliers kinda kill the point of an equal stats fight?
Luffy can't resurrect anymore, but his analytical prediction is pretty broken too.I think it would be very difficult for Luffy to overcome the automatic defenses of Goku's body even with his denial of durability since he has the barriers of auras, barriers, his automatic defense, high-level instinctive reaction, telekinesis, paralysis, BFR, attacks aerials, creation of illusions, the giant of light, BFR, Luffy could not know how strong Goku is thanks to his resistance to information analysis, also the red roc would not be as effective thanks to the fact that Goku can withstand high levels of temperature, Also the fact that Goku has a very broken analytical prediction but Luffy along with his precognition, type 8 immortality, regeneration, resurrection and resistance to forceful attacks makes things a little more difficult.
Yes, but Luffy's analytical prediction is based on his analysis of information.Luffy can't resurrect anymore, but his analytical prediction is pretty broken too.
Goku isn't literally immune to people seeing his movements and thinking about it.Yes, but Luffy's analytical prediction is based on his analysis of information.
he is capable of analyzing and copying techniques of others just by looking, completely understanding complex abilities. He is capable of anticipating an enemy's direction of movement based on this principle. Luffy has only been shown to copy techniques limited to skills done without supernatural abilities, as in superhuman physical techniques like the Soru, which consists of kicking the ground over 10 times in an instant in order to move at supernatural speeds It is similar to the analytical prediction of Goku as a child when he went to train with Karin or what he did against Roshi when he imitated all of his techniques just by seeing them in the first Tenkaichi Budokai to which Roshi decided to use the Suiken technique so that he would not predict his next attacks. to which Goku got used to creating the Saruken that was unpredictable for Roshi, those are things that are left out in Goku's profileGoku isn't literally immune to people seeing his movements and thinking about it.
I don’t really care for the debate, but internal damage probably wouldn’t work to put him down. At least, not in one shot. Black’s Divine Lasso impales through the body and detonates, and he was able to get back up and keep fighting.Oh, then we have an argument. Both of them are growing as they fight, but Luffy is basically coated in armor, immune to bludgeoning, and can punch Goku's organs. Also, he can see the future, and detect Goku, and turn things into rubber. G5 would grab a Kamehameha and arc it back at him.
I mean the manga versionI don’t really care for the debate, but internal damage probably wouldn’t work to put him down. At least, not in one shot. Black’s Divine Lasso impales through the body and detonates, and he was able to get back up and keep fighting.
That's mimicry, not Analytical predictionhe is capable of analyzing and copying techniques of others just by looking, completely understanding complex abilities. He is capable of anticipating an enemy's direction of movement based on this principle. Luffy has only been shown to copy techniques limited to skills done without supernatural abilities, as in superhuman physical techniques like the Soru, which consists of kicking the ground over 10 times in an instant in order to move at supernatural speeds It is similar to the analytical prediction of Goku as a child when he went to train with Karin or what he did against Roshi when he imitated all of his techniques just by seeing them in the first Tenkaichi Budokai to which Roshi decided to use the Suiken technique so that he would not predict his next attacks. to which Goku got used to creating the Saruken that was unpredictable for Roshi, those are things that are left out in Goku's profile
Yup, you're right.That's mimicry, not Analytical prediction
It’s interesting/funny to me that Black was given the Acausality for it but Beerus wasn’t given the necessary temporal erasure to cause the need for it.Now with the time rings crt kind of complete, am I missing anything related to the time hyperlinks for the canon?
Unless someone wants to give the time machine as equipment to Future Trunks, or delve into that hakai erasing zamasu thing and I don't know what.
It’s interesting/funny to me that Black was given the Acausality for it but Beerus wasn’t given the necessary temporal erasure to cause the need for it.
It wasn't accepted as temporal erasure, it was accepted as it simply making the timeline not split and making your past affect your future instead of the said split happeningIt’s interesting/funny to me that Black was given the Acausality for it but Beerus wasn’t given the necessary temporal erasure to cause the need for it.
I remember when someone tried making that a official power when Beerus first preformed that feat.It wasn't accepted as temporal erasure, it was accepted as it simply making the timeline not split and making your past affect your future instead of the said split happening
It wasn't accepted as temporal erasure, it was accepted as it simply making the timeline not split and making your past affect your future instead of the said split happening
I remember when someone tried making that a official power when Beerus first preformed that feat.
It's stated in Heroes that big bangs that births universes, although it's non-canon information
The Daishinkan profile is missing which is low 1-C above Zen'ōNow with the time rings crt kind of complete, am I missing anything related to the time hyperlinks for the canon?
Unless someone wants to give the time machine as equipment to Future Trunks, or delve into that hakai erasing zamasu thing and I don't know what.
The Daishinkan profile is missing which is low 1-C above Zen'ō
Goku Black could give him space-time manipulation low 1-C, he cut through space-time and saw several parallel worlds, past and futureGoku Black will become a smurf.
Itachi victimsI made a DB vs Naruto match, check it out: https://vsbattles.com/threads/goku-and-piccolo-fight-off-an-alien-invasion.162252/
That is not what he said tho...........he was teorizing that it could be leading to another universe, and then said that it was actually his own hate making formGoku Black could give him space-time manipulation low 1-C, he cut through space-time and saw several parallel worlds, past and future
He don'tGoku solo
He doesHe don't
Yup, Power of Destruction is not ki, so making a separate page will be betterWhy did you remove the "Power of Destruction" part from your sanbox?
Do you want to transform it into another page, instead of putting everything together?
Huh, but it is in the "special ki manip" page for the dragon ball games thoYup, Power of Destruction is not ki, so making a separate page will be better
Huh, but it is in the "special ki manip" page for the dragon ball games tho
Disagree with this, but it’s whatever.Yup, Power of Destruction is not ki, so making a separate page will be better
NahNot for long
In the MUI Goku uses telekinesis in combatOn the one hand not being capable of flying puts him at a severe disadvantage. He is also outranged. Luffy has no answer for telekinesis though Goku doesn't use it in character.
On the other hand he is immune to blunt force which limits Goku to beam attacks Kienzan which are all extremely telegraphic. His fighting style is also not martial arts based but rather comparable to Buu's fighting style which gave Goku a hard time. Future sight also hard counters Warp Kamehameha and God Bind.
IMO it could go either way. Both have win cons.
It's not ki in the sense of being a spiritual power that comes from courage and right mindedness, it just has it's similarities from being another type of energyDisagree with this, but it’s whatever.
It’s a type of God Ki like how God Ki is a type of normal KiIt's not ki in the sense of being a spiritual power that comes from courage and right mindedness, it just has it's similarities from being another type of energy
i was also not liking how the page was fully about regular ki, and them it suddenly had Power of Destruction