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"Kami no ki" is what God Ki is called, yeah. What's your point?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Don't play smart. You get the point.
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Why does God ki being called God ki mean anything?
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Maybe it's because Hakai is,you know, a type of Godly Ki.
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The whole argument was about whether or not it was ki.
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Are you new to the Dragon Ball topic?
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but do we tho? i don't see anything within the cannon profiles that would suggest that we do
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No. Is Japanese grammar forbidden knowledge?
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What was your original name here? I do not remember you
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I've been the same name the whole time
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I understand
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Wtf are these semantics? Toppo goes GoD mode, Jiren and co sense the sudden spike of his ki, Toppo demonstrates hakai aura, and then it is literally said to be "Kami no Ki"
There is no reason for this argument to have gone on this long
There is no reason for this argument to have gone on this long
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That means God Ki, not Hakai.
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Yes, that's why I said it. After demonstrating the Power of Destruction, they say he has godly ki
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Yes, because he went into his God form.
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Why is this even a debate?
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DB powerscalers biggest enemies are themselves lmao
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Very generous to include omega in that
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A form can use multiple things.
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Goku isn't a conventional hero but he's still pure of heart. Even as a kid he'd do random acts of kindness for strangers he just met. Goku is a sweet good natured person, and in all honesty what Super didn't wasn't character assassination, but more akin to flounderization, highlighting specific qualities for the sake of comedy.
Super Goku is still Goku, DBS was just generally a more lighthearted series than Z, therefor more opportunities for his goofy side to shine.
Super Goku is still Goku, DBS was just generally a more lighthearted series than Z, therefor more opportunities for his goofy side to shine.
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"No, see, I don't think of it like I'm saving the world. The fact is, it's because I'm usually trying to challenge the strongest warriors I can find. That's how this tournament happened, too. But I can't bear the thought of innocent lives getting wiped out just because I want to fight the best. So, I'll do what I can for them."
- Goku explaining his motivations to Android 17
- Goku explaining his motivations to Android 17
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Goku's only instance of character assassination is the meditation training scene during DBS Superhero
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Yeah I don't know wtf that was about, the manga fixed it to him being surprised Vegeta of all people would be meditating, but that shit was goofy
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This was illegal. Damn that roast. Omega he hakai'd you
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I don't know about you personally, but instances like Goku being willing to let Frieza go during Revival of F is something he shouldn't have done or considered in the first place IMO.
Yes, Goku's been known to spare a number of his enemies which later became his friends or his allies, but he spared Frieza twice on Namek and both in instances the guy tried to kill Goku and was unwilling to turn a new leaf. That's why Goku blasted him in the end and, with that look he gave at the end of the fight, indicates that he perhaps learned that there are individuals who are incapable of and undeserving of redemption like Frieza
So let me make this a little clear: I'm not advocating for Goku to kill any and all enemies he faces now and in the future, I'm simply saying that Super Goku should be capable at this point of discerning who can be redeemed and who is irredeemable and act accordingly with that information. It's the same vein as why, in my opinion, Goku should've taken out Moro when he had the upper hand in MUI because he was far too dangerous and unrepenting to keep alive
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Considering these guys can't breathe in space, you'd think Goku would know to kill the mass destroyers who could kill everyone by literally just performing a space drive-by
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At this point, I'd totally be down with them retconning it so that Saiyans are capable of fully breathing in space because a lot of side media, and instances in canon material, show instances of characters like Goku just flying or fighting in space without much issue.
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Is it ever specifically shown in the main continuity that Saiyans can't breathe in space?
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Edit: Also Frieza straight up killing Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta via planet busting in RoF lol
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The choice to make Super Saiyans unable to breathe in space is absolutely stupid
Never mind the god damn Super Saiyan God being unable to breathe in space
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Counter point: RoF is f*king ass and I ignore it entirely
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^What Maverick said above. Plus during the Frieza fight on Namek, after Frieza tried blowing up the planet, it was a decently sized tense situation for Goku because Frieza stated that he can breathe in space unlike Goku. So there's a few moments in the main continuity where it's a plot point that Saiyans can breathe in space
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The fact that Saiyans are completely fine in the exosphere but make their way to death's doorstep if they take one step outside is goofy
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I still think that this story about the Saiyans not surviving in the vacuum of space was retold by Frieza's race in order to colonize the Saiyans so they wouldn't run away (Frieza enslaving an entire race for labor and doing his work).
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Does it actually make sense? I mean, they are still living organisms.
We can't really say that it doesn't make sense considering real life.
Like, them surviving in space would only mean having fights in space. Of course, I would like that, but I don't know if actually saying that "it doesn't make sense" makes sense.
But on the issue of SSJG going forward, I think an excuse like "gods don't need to breathe" could be a good excuse.
It's kind of stupid to think that a god needs oxygen.
In the layer where Beerus and Goku fought, there is still oxygen. Although it's extremely little, so I think it makes some sense.
But I don't remember much about the battle of gods arc in the anime.
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Saiyans being able to breathe in space by undergoing a transformation into an ascended state makes a lot of damn sense. And from a narrative perspective, stamina drain adds a time limit
Molecules in the exosphere effectively don't collide. There is practically no air up there to the point that it can be considered part of outer space
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I can't forgive this tidbit when it comes to RoF. I mean not only was it suppose to be a major sell on the movie where Vegeta was going to be the main character that defeated Frieza, and he wasn't which rightfully got people annoyed, but then the movie kills him off in one of the dumbest ways imaginable for such a beloved and badass character.
You know I have my issues with the Moro and Granolah Arcs, but I think RoF is hands down one of the worst arcs in Super and possibly even Dragon Ball as a whole.
