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Can we just stick with tier 2 dragon ball
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Yeah, Low 1-C neutral zone is basically a lost cause. It was already determined in the [above baseline 2-A] staff thread that visuals don’t work as even supporting evidence. If you were to take visuals seriously, then technically speaking, the observable universe, the space-time bubble as a whole, and the space between all share the same dimensionality, and basically everything would be downgraded to 3-A.I don't know why you guys are still trying to cook neutral space instead of trying hypertime lines.
so, it need to be explicitly stated that the space between space-time continuum/timeline is 5-dimensional axis before we talking about its size, or just have evidence that it significant in size is enough??What do you have that can explicitly showcase that 5-dimensional axis to extend that long?
i have been arguing hypertimeline for years, but no one seem to acknowledge it it, so.................I don't know why you guys are still trying to cook neutral space instead of trying hypertime lines.
Sir, yes sir.Yeah, Low 1-C neutral zone is basically a lost cause. It was already determined in the [above baseline 2-A] staff thread that visuals don’t work as even supporting evidence. If you were to take visuals seriously, then technically speaking, the observable universe, the space-time bubble as a whole, and the space between all share the same dimensionality, and basically everything would be downgraded to 3-A.
I feel like there's miscommunication here.so, it need to be explicitly stated that the space between space-time continuum/timeline is 5-dimensional axis before we talking about its size, or just have evidence that it significant in size is enough??
i have been arguing hypertimeline for years, but no one seem to acknowledge it it, so.................
I feel like there's miscommunication here.
The default assumption is that space-time continuums and parallel realities especially, are displaced across a 5-dimensional distance. You have to prove that this distance is large or infinite with statements.
Can't talk about the hyper-timeline stuff. DB seems to be cursed.
DB seems to be cursed
Speaking of hypertimelines.Can't talk about the hyper-timeline stuff. DB seems to be cursed.
Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate time-spaces relative to each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
The Greek World is a greater timeline that embeds 4-dimensional space-time continuums
The Greek World is a greater timeline that embeds 4-dimensional space-time continuums
oke, thank you then, some said to me that the space must be stated to be 5-dimensional axis, i feel like it is too hyper-specificThe default assumption is that space-time continuums and parallel realities especially, are displaced across a 5-dimensional distance
.....................well, can't argue with that lolCan't talk about the hyper-timeline stuff. DB seems to be cursed.
I don't think it really matters since we're dealing with 4D.I guarantee this is just because of the realms being mentioned as infinite, DB cannot have a mention that the Universes are infinite or infinite dimensions ( who says it is hyperbole, poetry, or bad translation like the world of emptiness that has the same meaning as eternal, anyway, DB is only in this tier because we don't even have the creator's own lines of DB being as the word of a God)
You're cooking?Don’t worry about hypertimelines for DB there‘s always people in the background working
If time is infinite wouldn't that make the multiverse 2-A?I don't think it really matters since we're dealing with 4D.
Only a timeline has countless infinities of 3D space.
In the case of DB there are three infinite 4D that are within another space-time continuum called universe 7. And as time is infinite.
Countless infinities of 4D space.
And that’s just counting the individual universe.
And not the multiverse and the hypertimeline that encompasses them.
Greenshifter already tried an upgrade like this under the basis that the Kaioshin realm being “eternal” or something like that meant the Macrocosm held infinite time and was therefore 2-A.If time is infinite wouldn't that make the multiverse 2-A?
The DB Multiverse? I already said that according to the hyperlines of time it would be 5D.If time is infinite wouldn't that make the multiverse 2-A?
So 2-A isn’t when time is infinite, and it’s not when you have infinite 4th dimensional directions either… so what is it on a fundamental level (beyond just infinite space-times)?
I understandGreenshifter already tried an upgrade like this under the basis that the Kaioshin realm being “eternal” or something like that meant the Macrocosm held infinite time and was therefore 2-A.
The problem is, time is infinite by default as it extends infinitely throughout past/present/future. I think Qawsedf’s response was something like “That’s not 2-A. The 4th dimension is a direction, and 2-A is an infinite number of 4th dimensional direction.”
But I find that confusing too, since DontTalk has explained before that a single direction of time can service multiple space-times. So 2-A isn’t when time is infinite, and it’s not when you have infinite 4th dimensional directions either… so what is it on a fundamental level (beyond just infinite space-times)?
I guarantee you that I understand less than what you said, for me the level is like those A+B= x calculationsThe DB Multiverse? I already said that according to the hyperlines of time it would be 5D.
Since in the same way that a timeline has countless infinities of 3D space, hypertimelines would have to 5D.
I still don't know about everything, I'm still a bit new at the beginning of tier 1.So don't trust anything I say.
But at least I can see a possibility of 6D DB if they know how to cook well.
This is why we are grateful that we are not members of the Staff to have to deal with several crts on R > f 1-A if the Ultima crt passes.I guarantee you that I understand less than what you said, for me the level is like those A+B= x calculations
Quite a headacheThis is why we are grateful that we are not members of the Staff to have to deal with several crts on R > f 1-A if the Ultima crt passes.
If a good part of the staff didn't want to come even close or called for something Low 1-C, I don't even want to imagine the wave of 1-A that will come.
No I get this, but the macrocasm each contain 3 universal realms, example, the mortal universe, otherworld and Kaioshin realm.No. A 2-B multiverse is very technically a "5-D space containing many universes". It isn't Low 1-C.
What do you have that can explicitly showcase that 5-dimensional axis to extend that long? It can be 1 centimeter between universes in that axis and still be a proper multiverse. If I have a million 2-dimensional planes stacked up with 1 yoctometer between them, it'd be doubtful if I hit 10-B via destroying them all, and similar logic applies. And please don't bring up the visuals, by that logic the timeline would be Low 2-C since higher-dimensional visual depiction isn't what's happening there.
It sucks but at this point, you need proper statements and not just visual cues.
I just want to fully understand the mechanics of his they rate these tiers from 1 up.I don't know why you guys are still trying to cook neutral space instead of trying hypertime lines.
The new size of the afterlife makes it bigger thab even the living universe by millions of timesWait, since when was the Realm of the Kai universal? Thought it was a tenth.
Oh? New size? Explain.The new size of the afterlife makes it bigger thab even the living universe by millions of times
Oh? New size? Explain.
.the one involving heaven not being seen ij the sky of it, the one thing that gave us nonilions c speed, check the calculation in a DBS profile to check betterOh? New size? Explain.
4, maybe 5Guys, how big do we treat U7 as?
Where?Babe wake up new DB uni size dropped
It was a jokeWhere?
I understandIt was a joke
Sorry, I meant the Living World. is it as big as the observable universe or bigger?4, maybe 5
as big as the observable universeSorry, I meant the Living World. is it as big as the observable universe or bigger?
Can you give me a tlder of what this is please?Oh god now the hyper timeline argument is being used for DMC. I don't agree with hyper timeline arguments but DB is being shafted when they have basically the same shit .
At most that makes it 4x bigger with a conservative estimate, say that earth is shifted 3/4 universal radius away from the center, the diameter of observable universe from DB earth perspective would make the DB living world have a radius 2x times that of the RL observable universe.it should be bigger, observable universe center point is from Earth, and DB Earth is at the edge of the Living Universe
It's in the DMC blog and Planck believes the hyper stuff to be doubly valid.Can you give me a tlder of what this is please?
I haven't read all the blog as I'm writing an exercise (I shouldn't even be here) but is it nearly the same fro DB and if yes why is it not applied? Well we will see how it goes there but I'm against Low 1-C DMC for now. Will look at the hypertime stuff later.It's in the DMC blog and Planck believes the hyper stuff to be doubly valid.
I read their blog it shouldn’t qualify for Low 1-C timeline since there’s no mention of alternate time dimensions. There’s just a timeline that encompasses other Low 2-C stuff. I would be heavily shocked if this got accepted since you can separate things by space-time with one time dimension too.Oh god now the hyper timeline argument is being used for DMC. I don't agree with hyper timeline arguments but DB is being shafted when they have basically the same shit .