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あの世もこの世ち自在に移動!!
"Move freely in this world and the next!"
ナメック星脱出後に、悟空がヤードラット星の人々から教えてもらった技だ。知っている相手の気を探し、相手がいる場所へと一瞬で移動できる。逆に言えば、知っている気がない場所への瞬間移動は無理。移動できる場所は、あの世もこの世も関係ない。
"This is a technique that Goku was taught by the people of Planet Yardrat after his escape from Planet Namek. It is possible to search for the ki of a known target and instantly move to the location where the opponent is. Conversely, it is impossible to move instantly to a place where there is no known ki. It does not matter where you are, in this world or the next."
『激突!! 100億パワーの〜』ではメタルクウラも瞬間移動を使用、移動空間でのバトルまで描かれた。瞬間移動は劇場版では「時間を超越した異空間を通る」という解釈のようだ。
"In "Fight! 10 Billion Power Warriors", Metal Cooler also used Instantaneous Movement, and even depicted a battle in a moving space. In the movie version, Instantaneous Movement seems to be interpreted as "passing through a different space that transcends time"."
相手を直接攻撃する技ではない。その代わりに瞬間移動してかめはめ波を放つなど、戦い方に幅を持たせることができた。
"It is not a technique that directly attacks the opponent. Instead, it was used to give the fighter a wider range of fighting styles, such as releasing a Kamehameha wave by moving instantaneously."
Source.地球上程度の広さなら移動は一瞬。1万キロ離れたカメハラスも瞬く間に行き来した。
"A space the size of the earth can be traveled instantly; even Kame House, 10,000 km away, can come and go in the blink of an eye."
I have this book in Portuguese here
Basically confirming that time is 0 for teleportation? The official website also mentions something like this, just a minute!
I want to see is refute a lot of evidencehere we go
"Instantly" doesn't mean 0 time
Doesn't this confirm meta cooler movie IT being 0 time?
"In "Fight! 10 Billion Power Warriors", Metal Cooler also used Instantaneous Movement, and even depicted a battle in a moving space. In the movie version, Instantaneous Movement seems to be interpreted as "passing through a different space that transcends time"."
Yeah, kindaDoesn't this confirm meta cooler mover IT being 0 time?
I mean it's verbatim stated, doesn't change much tho. Since transcending time on this site means pretty much nothing if you are arguing higher tiers."In "Fight! 10 Billion Power Warriors", Metal Cooler also used Instantaneous Movement, and even depicted a battle in a moving space. In the movie version, Instantaneous Movement seems to be interpreted as "passing through a different space that transcends time"."
Is this usable for cosmology? Or is it just speculation?
That...ugh okay whatever.I mean it's verbatim stated, doesn't change much tho. Since transcending time on this site means pretty much nothing if you are arguing higher tiers.
I'm going to laugh really hard if Metal Cooler manages to get Infinite Speed.Yeah, kinda
The good side that Goku Toei who fought against the cooler willThat...ugh okay whatever.
I'm going to laugh really hard if Metal Cooler manages to get Infinite Speed.
that goku has no profile here, as the meta cooler movie is not considered canon for the toei anime continuityThe good side that Goku Toei who fought against the cooler will
Soon everything will be clarifiedthat goku has no profile here, as the meta cooler movie is not considered canon for the toei anime continuity
I agree, or we can just put a key on Goku's profile toeiWe need to create a profile just for the Goku that fought Cooler.
really? lol how come?that goku has no profile here, as the meta cooler movie is not considered canon for the toei anime continuity
makes no sense with the series' timelinereally? lol how come?
The people at vsbttles simply have an idea that some films are not canon to Toei, I don't know exactly where they got this idea from, I think that in the 12th film all the previous characters from the films are shown having direct connection)really? lol how come?
Actually. That is interesting. You see when Zeno erases universes it leaves behind a sort of rainbow effect and is white. Yet the World of Void is shown seemingly at the centre of a universe Zeno erased (or I guess it could be just empty space) and is randomly black.Which suggests that this void is the space of the 6 Universes erased by Zen'ō
Well, I still believe that Zen'ō can erase everything, from concepts and even entities at the 5D level if there is one in DB somedayActually. That is interesting. You see when Zeno erases universes it leaves behind a sort of rainbow effect and is white. Yet the World of Void is shown seemingly at the centre of a universe Zeno erased (or I guess it could be just empty space) and is randomly black.
Is it possible the World of Void is an artificial construct made by someone? Or that it's some higher level of existence erasure above even Zeno? From my perspective it's almost like Zeno leaves behind the 'canvas' of universes whereas the WoV is the result of something erasing even a large part of a canvas. A 'deeper' form of erasure. A gaping hole in the divine infinite canvas of all creation.
It could be possible the WoV is the result of a higher-level of Erase that Zeno has. What effect it has to differ from a normal Erase we can't say.Well, I still believe that Zen'ō can erase everything, from concepts and even entities at the 5D level if there is one in DB someday
I really like your explanation a lot.It could be possible the WoV is the result of a higher-level of Erase that Zeno has. What effect it has to differ from a normal Erase we can't say.
An alternative explanation is that the Void is where Zeno came from and all of existence formed around it. It is stated to be 'eternal' after all.
Exactly, nothing realBTW before people start throwing accusations of wank they are just theorizing
Oh yeah, I'm known in a few places for being the guy with all those "wacky 5-D Goku arguments," and this is one of them that's been proliferating recently. Basically, there's an interview from the Broly movie staff where they state that depicting the dimension of swirling lights was their attempt at depicting something beyond 3-D, where they expressed the dimension in mathematical formulas and converted it to 3-D. The problem is, I've been met with 5 debunks recently, so I have to keep updating the arguments (which I haven't in a while).Hey is this thread worth anything? Could anyone look at it and let me know? Actually that was made by profectus so yes....it probably doesn't work here?
Both Omega's counter argument and it being a misinterpretation aren't exactly strong counter arguments imo, but right now the DOSL is just a giant question mark and we don't know much about it, so using that limited information to make claims for 5D DBS are just shaky purely because its such an isolated incident at this point.Oh yeah, I'm known in a few places for being the guy with all those "wacky 5-D Goku arguments," and this is one of them that's been proliferating recently. Basically, there's an interview from the Broly movie staff where they state that depicting the dimension of swirling lights was their attempt at depicting something beyond 3-D, where they expressed the dimension in mathematical formulas and converted it to 3-D. The problem is, I've been met with 5 debunks recently, so I have to keep updating the arguments (which I haven't in a while).
Basically, the main counterpoint is that the interview was talking about the math of 3-D animation and CGI, and the whole part about "beyond 3-D" was a misinterpretation. Not to mention:
1. We don't accept "superdimensional" as a significant statement by site standards: its supporting evidence at best.
2. I think Omegabronic argued in his space-time number downgrade thread that "beyond 3-D" could just be referring to how it's a space-time rather than being spatially 4-D.
Either way, the article has plenty of good statements for the dimension of swirling lights like how its a "different dimension" and "entirely different reality," but I strongly advise against using any of the "beyond 3-D" or "5-D" arguments from it.
Dende is the Guardian of Earth, which sets the events during the ten day wait for the Cell Games, but Gohan is still 8 years old, and Goku and Vegeta are seemingly in their normal Super Saiyan formsreally? lol how come?
The word used is "isshun" (一瞬), which translates into "instant; moment; for an instant", effectively meaning a brief period of time.I want to see is refute a lot of evidence
not really matter much honestly, because Isshun also often use for instant as in zero time, it depend on contexts anyway, Japanese do not have specific word for zero time, teleportation iircThe word used is "isshun" (一瞬), which translates into "instant; moment; for an instant", effectively meaning a brief period of time.