Did you really just as how it's a false equivalence instead of saving yourself the embarrassment, by just conceding? Oh well.
goku : Moro is stronger
The shattering dimensions feat is extremely inconsistent with their manga capabilities, unless you wanna argue that the fusion dance is an infinite increase, or that Broly got infinitely stronger after Gogeta appeared. They never used CSSJB in the movie, while we see them likely using it in the one panel we get of the manga version of the fight, where we also see both Goku and Vegeta fighting together before they should be, since they were still in the ice area. Goku remembers Ribrianne at the start of the movie as if she was a noteworthy fighter, even though he literally didn't even see her in the manga, let alone fight with or praise her, she just fought 18 for a bit, was weaker than her, then was eliminated by the invisible fighter. Whereas in the anime, Ribrianne was somewhat relevant, and fought with Goku, impressing him to some extent. Vegeta also noted how much stronger Frieza got, but in the manga there was no implications of a significant difference, just that he got slightly more powerful, contrary to the anime where he was much more powerful than in RoF. In the one panel we see of Frieza in the manga version of the Broly movie, we also see him in his first form, even though nothing implies he's used that since RoF in the anime and movie versions of DBS. So no, it's not really a baseless assumption at all. Just because they all fought together in a battle royale doesn't mean they'd be even in one on one fights, with Beerus being directly implied as one of the stronger ones on multiple occasions. Actually, in the manga, it was only said that Jiren has a higher level of raw power, and Toppo felt that it was worth specifying that, which still implies that Belmod could be superior in combat overall, but has a lower level of pure strength, and again, no actual confirmation of Belmod being on par with or superior to Beerus. Actually there is plenty supporting my claim of it, including the fact that it's what most people would assume unless they're directly trying to deny it. There's much more evidence supporting the actual movie specifically being for the anime than there is supporting otherwise, and taking Goku's word as concrete evidence, especially when it's not a direct statement, isn't very reliable.
When did Goku say 'Moro is stronger than Beerus'? Absolutly never? Okay.
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I don't even know what you're saying there beyond saying that I should've conceded, and bringing up the whole false equivalence thing again.
A character saying they'll lend a hand means they're going to provide help. It's literally impossible to actually argue that he was implying anything beyond that when it comes to just his statement by itself, while visual implications along with very likely author intent do imply that he was, at least in some way, going to fight Moro directly. It's an assumption to say literally anything other than that. It also doesn't sound very in character for Beerus to team up with someone in order to defeat an opponent.
It didn't imply that at all, it's a direct 'I'll deal with that' statement. Trying to desperatly grasp at any straw to salvage another 'muh stronger than Beerus' debacle is getting sad, I haven't seen that much cope since Mechikabura was confirmed fodder to any GoD despite everyone arguing he was Angel tier. Beerus is gonna stay stronger until Toriyama directly has him beat / stated weaker, no one else is gonna risk stepping on his toes by having their OCs beat Beerus until then.
I’m sorry, where did you get me saying anyone was stronger than Beerus there? Seriously, I’m curious where you got that from. And no, Beerus isn’t saying “I’ll deal with him,” he’s saying “I’ll lend a hand.” Nothing about that situation implies he was just gonna smack Goku to the side and do everything himself.
I never said it only follows the manga too.
I said there is no evidence to say that it only follows the anime iirc because I don't believe that its only following the anime, I didn't mean that its only following the manga, my passage which u quoted up, I was saying you are assuming that the movie only follows the anime without evidence and I said nothing supports ur claim about the movie being only following the anime. I put "only" twice there because I didn't mean that it only follows the manga, I wrote my opinion about it later
It should also have the ability to seal abilities. The same one that Merus used to seal the other gems.
Whis only said that Goku needed to destroy the gem. No mention was made about him sealing Moro's abilities.
I once asked AKM about this iirc, he told me that it was a PIS
the thing is, goku was able to go back and fly there which was kinda stupid move from Akira
