Considering the big theme of “Regaining your Saiyan Instinct/Heritage,” it might be that the ultimate goal is combining Saiyan Instinct (SSJ4) with Divine Wisdom (Ultra Instinct).
The stat multiplier going to be disgustingly high
Why not? This is a Dragon Ball discussion thread, he can complain If he wants.
But then what will Vegeta get?
His complaint seems like an insult.
As stupid as that sounds, yes. Since even base Cabba is 2-C and Daima Goku only seems to be 4-B at max with transformations
No, let's just hope DBZ Kakarot gives us a multiplier in the database entires.
They’re to be separate.
I mean let's wait for Daima to end, or perhaps 1 month after it's end we may get a interview or something confirming the multiplier for that form (or even a one off comment of Goku saying "I felt easily several times stronger than in ssj3 in that form" would give a nice low ball multiplier)
The best you can currently argue is that it’s a 2x multiplier, assuming that Neva’s boost to the Tamagami (took T2 from SSJ Vegeta to greater to SSJ2 Vegeta level, but way lower than SSJ3) is the same as the boost he gave Goku, but even that could be seen as a stretch because his boost on the Tamagami and what he did to Goku is markedly different, at least visually.
That seems to be the case. All we can do is wait next episode
Kind of but yes.
dragonball.fandom.com
Thanks, damn this looks interesting, but not sure if the rest of the daima is worth it... maybe I should give another try.Kind of but yes.
Goku after being defeated in SSJ3 gets powered up by Namekian magic and taps into a form that looks almost identical to SSJ4. Main differences are that the hair color is more red like SSJ4 Gogeta or SSJG. Eye color is a bit different. No fur around the forearms. Big hands. And Goku is still a kid in the form.
So far only a news account has actually referred to it as SSJ4 but idk if that's canonically the name of it. I don't think it should be called anything else though since that's just what it is. Of course, this is not the same SSJ4 we saw in GT, it's very different in terms of narrative and origin, and likely the power boost as well. But nevertheless it's SSJ4.
DB wiki has already added it lol.
Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 4 (超スーパーサイヤ人じん４フォー, Sūpā Saiya-jin Fō) is an advancement of the Super Saiyan and Golden Great Ape forms that first appears in Dragon Ball GT. As part of the Great Ape branch of Super Saiyan transformations, it is separate from the standard branch of Super Saiyan forms despite being...
Well let me give you the run down;
Also no SSJ4 probably won't show up in DBS. Goku only gains the form because he was buffed by magic and then loses it later in the episode. We don't know if he'll even use it again in Daima. But there's a possibility.
Now Goku just needs to use the Dragon Fist and we good
Speaking of, I’m surprised no one has talked about this. Gomah just forced Goku to de-transform. And not like, “He was just so hurt Goku turned back naturally,” like normal.
Ki Absorption or maybe it's what Moro does
Moro does the Ki Absorption. Though you’re right in suggesting that it might be Gomah using that, since that IS a KNOWN magical ability we could apply.
I'm pretty sure that damn eye grants Subjective Reality
Straight up even if he found it and was told of what it could do, he’d toss it out. Powers of demonic origin, even if he’s by technicality a Demon himself, would not be a thing he’d CHOOSE to rely on.
Maybe it's really a nullification
