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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Looks like Super gets the short end of the stick having infinite combat speeds and with GT/Toei having the better juicier infinite speed ratings.
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thetechmaster36
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Dragon Ball moment
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On infinite db universe, or composite cosmology? Because even toriyama says gt and the movies are side stories that are alternate timelines. What's keep you in doubt?
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Infinite universe is fine with me, idc about that
I'm just still a bit skeptical about composite cosmology because of MWI (although, GT takes place after the end of Z, so [shrug])
I'm just still a bit skeptical about composite cosmology because of MWI (although, GT takes place after the end of Z, so [shrug])
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It's gonna be argued to hell and back for some time.
But at the absolute least, we have a guaranteed "likely/possibly" thanks to Firestorm.
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GT proving its superiority once again with DBS begging to have its cosmology scaled to it.
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super neggs
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I remember there was a much discussed feat here on the wiki, about gas and granola moving at the speed of teleportation, something like that.
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Why?I'm 100% sure Super Anime won't get the pass, Mark my words
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Yes, Gas and Goku could react to each other's instant transmission
That's another (debatable) instance of infinite combat speed, which now may not be an outlier anymore.
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Moro with infinite speed is broken, because of your copy powers.2-C infinite speed granolah, gas, and moro
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Tbh, GT/Toei is the only one I see with stronger evidence and less anti-feats tbf.
Funny enough, Canon is highly more inconsistent
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A sad state of affairs indeed.
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Wait, are the cosmologies being treated as the same now? Shared macrocosm and scaling to 3 universes for DBS?
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As of now yes they are
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What about Hit vs goku feat?
In the Manga being stronger negates the Timeskip and there is a statement explaining that.
In the Anime however it worked pretty well against stronger opponents with no statement indicating that its efficiacy decreases with larger PL gaps. Additionally unlike the manga where Goku beat the TS by decreasing its duration, Goku in the Anime was moving during the whole duration of timeskip. It wasn't negated at all. ( in the Anime TS is a self-hax that let's the user skip in time while in the Manga it is treated as a time stop that is applied on the opponent)
This should support infinite speed for combat speed.
In the Manga being stronger negates the Timeskip and there is a statement explaining that.
In the Anime however it worked pretty well against stronger opponents with no statement indicating that its efficiacy decreases with larger PL gaps. Additionally unlike the manga where Goku beat the TS by decreasing its duration, Goku in the Anime was moving during the whole duration of timeskip. It wasn't negated at all. ( in the Anime TS is a self-hax that let's the user skip in time while in the Manga it is treated as a time stop that is applied on the opponent)
This should support infinite speed for combat speed.
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I sure Hit time Skip is Hax
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So like how much would they be into 2-C? Since I know they were like half of 2-C or something before, which was what gave them 2-C
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Yes, travel speed wise only Angels are going to be Infinite, everyone else Massively FTL+ via scaling (as a heavy suppressed Beerus could still travel across at least interstellar distances).
Combat speed, attack speed and reactions should be fully Infinite instead via scaling from Beerus reacting to the universal busting energy explosion.
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Think y’all should just work on the high 3-A revisions before even considering a truly wicked can of worms like 2-C canon macrocosm
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Super Manga. Super Anime gets outright infinite
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Look at us, bickering over which upgrade to implement first
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Dragon Ball as a whole has come a long way in vs battle wiki
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Ngl it doesn't matter which upgrade happens first
literally anyone is allowed to make the thread at any time
literally anyone is allowed to make the thread at any time
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Well for Toei/GT, what infinite speed feats do we have? Including movies.
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Y’all are wild I’m just trying to finish my toeiverse cosmology blog explanation and then create a explanation for 2-C dbs that uses requirements from the Universe page on vsb and toeiverse being an alternate timeline
Also Infinite Speed isn’t inconsistent in db Whis never goes at full speed until he travels an infinite distance and in the WoV even in high paced battles they’re shown teleporting and warping around the place and can be argued that the only reason it takes seconds is for breaks within the actual T.o.P
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I mean, just make a cosmology blog for all together and get it accepted in one go, imo, composite cosmology makes way more sense than what has been accepted today. I doubt anyone will have any reason to oppose it.
@omegabronic hello
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That actually makes more sense than what I was doing…I mean, just make a cosmology blog for all together and get it accepted in one go, imo, composite cosmology makes way more sense than what has been accepted today. I doubt anyone will have any reason to oppose it.
@omegabronic hello
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from the broly z movie, i remember him being an eminent threat to the universe, with piccolo's quote saying that if they didn't stop broly, he would destroy the universe in the blink of an eye.
Note: The translation may be wrong, but the one I watched had this mention.
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-Goku and Cooler fighting within Instant Transmission in the Return of Cooler
-Buuhan's macrocosm affecting Vice Shout
-Baby Vegeta's Revenge Death Ball's shockwave affecting Kibito Kai and Goku mid Kai-Kai teleportation
-Goku gathering energy for the Genkidama from the entire macrocosm, including the Afterlife
Those are the ones that immediately come to mind.
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Wouldn't Pikkon and Goku traversing the afterlife count
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