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Yes, because that's how words work. It's on you to prove it refers to a specific subset, instead of being used like literally any normal-speaking person would use it.
It isn't "too general", it's how the word is used.
Yes, so the statement is demonstrably, objectively, and blatantly false.
Being stronger than 3 dudes who are fodder to Beerus isn't an indication of being above Beerus, nor does it mean that him getting beat into the dirt by other things doesn't invalidate the statement anyway.
My brother in Christ you really using a statement to argue that Merged Zamasu > Beerus, based on the beliefs of people who have no say, based on merely the most recent thing at the time, BEFORE Beerus and lads could come back in and prove that they were, in fact, still stronger, which is what ends up happening anyway?
My dude.
You realize the statement is basically the equivalent to some dude watching an anime, seeing the most recent villain in action and going "wow! so strong! he must be the strongest!", the day the episode comes out, even though shortly thereafter we learn that wasn't the case?
That alone straight up invalidates the whole of it, and even the slightest contradiction after the fact tosses it out the window.
Actually, they have shown to do that, hell even in the fight against BoG Goku, Beerus was slowly using more and more power, bit by bit, it's something anyone in DBZ can do, and often does within a fight.
And no, it's called escalation, the fight was escalating, but it was stopped before it could get to that point, as if it did get to that point, both worlds would be gone. We know that the longer they fight, the less they care about collateral. All Whis and Vados did was snip it in the bud, if you're arguing they immediately lead with 2-C power, then the universes would have been destroyed as the peak of their power is the destruction of both universes and is evidently not something that they can just hold back as if they could, Whis and Vados wouldn't really care if they bickered yet only a room was destroyed, the fact that such a thing had yet to occur is all the proof that's needed they hadn't reached that point yet.
No, it doesn't, because they're two completely unrelated topics, what Vegeta says has absolutely no bearing on what a bunch of random viewers like yourself say. They might corroborate each other in a vacuum, but that ignores the context around both statements, and why one can't be used regardless of any potential backing elsewhere.
You're also ignoring everything that comes after arguing this, it's by no coincidence almost everyone in this thread has mentioned how both the ToP and following arcs don't align with this viewpoint.
Except everyone would be superior to Beerus at this point, not just them. And Broly is "maybe" above Beerus, yet he'd have to be magnitudes above him if Merged Zamasu was already unapproachable in power comparatively.
Goku is also way, way, way, way beyond the scope of his power in the FT Arc. If Merged Zamasu > Beerus, that means, unironically, Goku in a form tens of times weaker than just his non-UI state come ToP, is above Beerus already and can throw hands with him just fine, even though we know, for a fact, anything below UI gets throttled by Beerus.
Would also ultimately end up having things like Kefla or Anilaza scale above Beerus.
Yes, and Toyotaro and Toei then proceed to flesh it out to their liking. They get a rough outline with key plot points, how they reach those plot points or the details within is up to them. Many things, especially scaling, differs between them, an obvious one is Kefla being Ultimate Gohan level in the manga, but incomparably above him and more powerful than UI2 Goku in raw power in the anime.
It is official information, but being official doesn't mean it's canonical.
This means nothing in regards to Toei, at b e s t you can say that MAYBE it's a good statement for the manga, but the manga already has that Vegito > Beerus line, so it's nothing new, and it's already established they're talking about the anime in particular, meaning it can't even be used for that.
All this line is, is the manga editorial or whatever watching the most recent super episodes and going "wow, zamasu strong!", and saying "yeah, we personally think he's unapproachable in power", and then getting promptly proven wrong down the line.
No it doesn't, because they aren't Toei, and you just brought up the threat levels again.
They don't matter, you've already said your argument isn't the threat levels, that they don't matter, and already agreed that the number of stars has zero relation to raw PL, so even if they did understand, this doesn't validate your argument as you've already conceded the stars aren't related to raw power in the first place.
It's evidently both.
You can't just assume that the stars are merely personal belief, but everything else is 100% solid fact. If it was, why would the stars be a personal opinion if they had access to such concrete information from Toei? At that point just post actual info instead of what they think?
It wouldn't make sense, you'd have to prove the statements are applicable to Toei canon despite coming from a source with no say, and that only stars aren't headcanon (even thou the personal belief thing kinda covers the whole of the page, nothing even implies it's just the threat ranking).
As far as I can tell, this is a statement from people who don't have any say, made with recency bias, before the fuckton of new information from following arcs was said, from a personal belief no less they themselves admitted.
Being used for material they have no say in.
This a statement that even if they had a say, is blatantly proven wrong as both Vegito and Trunks' attack absolutely wash Zamasu in power, and despite your claims that "others" is referring to such a small group of like 5 dudes maximum, you'd have to actually prove such a thing, as the word "others" has no indication of such, notwithstanding what would actually matter is the raw japanese said and its exact meaning, not an english fantranslation of the word.
You also have to basically ignore the whole Broly movie and ToP to go with this line of reasoning, you'd also get funny meme stuff like Toppo > Beerus.
The only thing that has any merit would be Vegeta's line, who never actually felt or seen the 2-C power from Beerus, and the fight he seen was stopped before it could even really begin.
AP=/=DC, but not in this case, as THE DC in question is the feat itself, and why they had to be stopped before they progressed further in the first place. Null elaborates better on this than I have.
If he was unapproachable in power, none of that would happen to begin with, especially by those who Beerus fodderizes.
