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Okay so this could be the worst idea I've ever conceived for all I know, but I really cannot just sit on this any longer after seeing this. So, hear me out on this:
Fused Zamasu is stronger than Beerus.
Now, I know what you may be thinking. "That's ridiculous. There's no way, right?" And I get it. I've seen people debate if Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than Beerus (the answer is yes he is btw), so if that's being debated, how could Fused Zamasu be superior? Well, let me introduce you all to something that - after searching through the forum for more time than I really should've - has never been mentioned:
The Rival Danger Scale
Now, what is the Rival Danger Scale? Essentially, it's the editorial department's ranking of all the antagonists in Dragon Ball Super prior to the Tournament of Power Arc, based on how "dangerous" they are. Linked here is the Rival Danger Scale. As you can see, the rankings are from one to twelve stars, and the characters present are as follows: Beerus, Vegeta, Golden Frieza, Champa, Hit, Goku Black, and Fused Zamasu.
Now, keep in mind: "more dangerous" does not necessarily mean stronger. In fact, the number of stars each character has is pretty irrelevant to this thread. For instance, Vegeta (despite having pummeled Goku Black by the end of the Future Trunks Arc) is only given a ranking of 3 stars compared to Goku Black's 12 stars. This is because "danger" represents the threat level the character has toward the living world. Despite his strength, Vegeta is not much of a danger to the world by this metric since he's settled down, started a family, and has overall become accustomed to life on Earth.
So, why is this important? Fused Zamasu has 12 stars, but like I said, the stars aren't actually important.
Well, Fused Zamasu has this statement right here:
"The form Goku Black and Zamasu reach after merging via the Potara. He is so strong that others cannot even approach him."
You could say that the statement of others being unable to even approach him is hyperbolic, sure, but the fact that Fused Zamasu's strength is so noteworthy, even more so than the likes of Beerus and Champa, should indicate that he is superior to them. Also, "approach him" could just not be literal, but rather more like "approach him in terms of power," which would further cement his power being above Beerus and Champa.
As such, I propose that Fused Zamasu be scaled to "At most 2-C" via scaling above the likes of Beerus and Champa. This would also affect Vegito Blue, Suppressed Jiren, Ultra Instinct Sign Goku, Post-Ultra Instinct Sign SSB Goku (+ Super Hero SSB Goku), Anilaza, Android 17's Barriers and Self-Destruction, SSB Evolved Vegeta, Broly Saga and Super Hero SSB Vegeta, SSJ2 Kefla, God of Destruction Toppo, Post-ToP Golden Frieza, Wrath DBS Broly, SSJ DBS Broly, Base and SSJ DBS Gogeta, Super Hero Piccolo, and Super Hero Gohan.
So this actually turned out to be a pretty massive revision. But, I think it's very noteworthy, especially seeing as this topic seems to have not been discussed before.
Of course, I could also be missing something, and this thread might just be an absolute botch job. However, I feel like you never know unless you try, so... here's hoping I guess. Also, as this may be controversial, let's please keep things civil. At the end of the day, it's just fiction, so we don't need to kill each other over this.
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral: @Hasty12345
Inb4 I wake up and suddenly the thread's closed
Fused Zamasu is stronger than Beerus.
Now, I know what you may be thinking. "That's ridiculous. There's no way, right?" And I get it. I've seen people debate if Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than Beerus (
The Rival Danger Scale
Now, what is the Rival Danger Scale? Essentially, it's the editorial department's ranking of all the antagonists in Dragon Ball Super prior to the Tournament of Power Arc, based on how "dangerous" they are. Linked here is the Rival Danger Scale. As you can see, the rankings are from one to twelve stars, and the characters present are as follows: Beerus, Vegeta, Golden Frieza, Champa, Hit, Goku Black, and Fused Zamasu.
Now, keep in mind: "more dangerous" does not necessarily mean stronger. In fact, the number of stars each character has is pretty irrelevant to this thread. For instance, Vegeta (despite having pummeled Goku Black by the end of the Future Trunks Arc) is only given a ranking of 3 stars compared to Goku Black's 12 stars. This is because "danger" represents the threat level the character has toward the living world. Despite his strength, Vegeta is not much of a danger to the world by this metric since he's settled down, started a family, and has overall become accustomed to life on Earth.
So, why is this important? Fused Zamasu has 12 stars, but like I said, the stars aren't actually important.
Well, Fused Zamasu has this statement right here:
"The form Goku Black and Zamasu reach after merging via the Potara. He is so strong that others cannot even approach him."
You could say that the statement of others being unable to even approach him is hyperbolic, sure, but the fact that Fused Zamasu's strength is so noteworthy, even more so than the likes of Beerus and Champa, should indicate that he is superior to them. Also, "approach him" could just not be literal, but rather more like "approach him in terms of power," which would further cement his power being above Beerus and Champa.
As such, I propose that Fused Zamasu be scaled to "At most 2-C" via scaling above the likes of Beerus and Champa. This would also affect Vegito Blue, Suppressed Jiren, Ultra Instinct Sign Goku, Post-Ultra Instinct Sign SSB Goku (+ Super Hero SSB Goku), Anilaza, Android 17's Barriers and Self-Destruction, SSB Evolved Vegeta, Broly Saga and Super Hero SSB Vegeta, SSJ2 Kefla, God of Destruction Toppo, Post-ToP Golden Frieza, Wrath DBS Broly, SSJ DBS Broly, Base and SSJ DBS Gogeta, Super Hero Piccolo, and Super Hero Gohan.
So this actually turned out to be a pretty massive revision. But, I think it's very noteworthy, especially seeing as this topic seems to have not been discussed before.
Of course, I could also be missing something, and this thread might just be an absolute botch job. However, I feel like you never know unless you try, so... here's hoping I guess. Also, as this may be controversial, let's please keep things civil. At the end of the day, it's just fiction, so we don't need to kill each other over this.
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral: @Hasty12345
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