Dragon Ball Heroes Infinite Speed Revision

[DMB_1]

Xeno Dabura (in DBH) is supposedly strong.

 

[Quantu]

Can we please not derail this thread with random memes and accusations?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

True, someone should probs close this, not only is the living in the realm thingy = infinite not ok, not only does it conflict with logic, but having only it's top tiers be infinite speed? Yeah...no.

 

[DMB_1]

True, someone should probs close this, not only is the living in the realm thingy = infinite not ok, not only does it conflict with logic, but having only it's top tiers be infinite speed? Yeah...no.

You are basically the only one disagreeing with our standards for infinite speed.

If you want, make a CTR.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Why are some people that much against Inf speed db?

Modt agree, judt deal woth it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You are basically the only one disagreeing with our standards for infinite speed.

If you want, make a CTR.

True, though that's not the only point i brought up.

 

[DMB_1]

If you disagree with our standards for infinite speed in general, then why even debate for a character to have them, if you are using yours?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

If you disagree with our standards for infinite speed in general, then why even debate for a character to have them, if you are using yours?

Even if i were to accept the realm giving infinite speed, still only god tiers having this is a MUCH bigger gap in logic than the others. (you can say that argument transcends logic..........was that funny?)

 

[DMB_1]

The gap between the top tier and the god tiers in Dark Souls is from 6-B to High 4-C. I personally don't see a problem with that, let alone this.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The gap between the top tier and the god tiers in Dark Souls is from 6-B to High 4-C. I personally don't see a problem with that, let alone this.

Read the msg again, i edited it.

 

[Sera_EX]

Why are some people that much against Inf speed db?

Modt agree, judt deal woth it.

Because that's not how it works darlin. People can challenge the legitimacy of something even if they are a small minority if they want.

"Even in a miniority of one, the truth is still the truth."- Ghandi.

"The staff agreed with it so its fact, just deal with it" should not be used as a legitimate argument, ever.

 

[DMB_1]

Again, I don't see the problem. Goku scales only to the God tiers, who are the only ones to do this feat.

And Dabura standing there was only in Xenoverse, and they still viewed him a threat as much as Towa.

 

[Kepekley23]

Similarly, if the "facts" are ambiguous, democracy wins over.

 

[AKM sama]

Going "the mods agreed with it so its fact, just deal with it" should not be used as a legitimate argument, ever.

Funny, the opposite of it is used as a legitimate argument, always. But let's not derail this.

 

[Sera_EX]

Absolutely, but staff agreeing with it has nothing to do with it. We all should know this by now.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Again, I don't see the problem. Goku scales only to the God tiers, who are the only ones to do this feat.
And Dabura standing there was only in Xenoverse, and they still viewed him a threat as much as Towa.

Dabura is not inf speed, therefore no one from that realm can be. Seriously you guys are trying to literally make like half of the characters infinite speed cus scaling and realm. No, no matter how fast you are, someone who is infinite speed is infinitely faster. A battle wouldn't even happen, ppl would be like "wait goku has fought Demigra?, wait who is demigra?" Even if 1 person from that realm is not infinite that is enough to make everyone just fast.

 

[Antvasima]

I am personally leaning towards agreeing with Matthew, but I am not certain.

In any case, Sera is correct in that our basic definitions should be:

Infinite speed = Anywhere instantly

Immeasurable speed = Anywhere and anywhen instantly

 

[DMB_1]

This upgraded is only for DBH, and DBH Dabura is superior to Demigra.

 

[Kepekley23]

In any case, if we're unsure of the facts, democracy should take precedence. And right now it's 26 people for and 4 against.

 

[Antvasima]

Surprised Ant hasn't stumbled upon this thread yet.

And before you guys ask, no, I do not intend to message/notify him.

There has been a monstrous amount of work for me to do today, so I do not have much time and energy available, and am mostly neutral about this.

 

[Straika]

So what now? Is or will be there any upgrade for the demon gods in terms of speed or not?

 

[DMB_1]

@Straika

Just wait for a Conclusion

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that they likely will be upgraded, as most of the staff agrees with it.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

^

 

[Quantu]

'''Will Xeno Goku scale?'''

 

[Frantzy12]

Every version of Demigra is quite powerful in comparison to canon version, if it fits the criteria I don't really see an issue here besides the concept of "infinite speed" itself.I think they should be upgraded.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This upgraded is only for DBH, and DBH Dabura is superior to Demigra.

Feats exactly? Oh apparently none. Proof against that:

1. Goku would scale to Demigra who is infinite, even though that is clear cut bullshit cus u can't train your way to "infinite speed".

2. Realm doesn't make u infinite.

3. EVERY fodder from that realm would be infinite in speed.

4. EVERY fodder ever would be infinite in speed cus power scaling and interactions and more.

5. There is a huge gap in logic to say that "1 character with no feats that was born where time is a stop = no time for the rest of his life", that would be the equivalent of saying "kumagawa could erase everything in a 4 universe world, so if we take him into marvel or dc he will erase the outerverse cus he can erase everything". Stats like that are not applicable without feats. Infinite speed can't be added with logic like that, it creates TOO many contradictions, there need to be feats or actual belivable conclusions.

 

[Frantzy12]

I don't see why he shouldn't all of his feats including stomping multiversal demon gods with barely any effort honestly.

 

[AKM sama]

Will Xeno Goku scale?

If it gets accepted, he should definitely scale. That shouldn't even be a question imo.

 

[Quantu]

@Fire

Democracy. Accept you have been outvoted.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I don't see why he shouldn't all of his feats including stomping multiversal demon gods with barely any effort honestly.

Yeah and?

Medaka stomped a being who transcends concepts (even ones such as strength or speed) so let's give her all the infinites and immesurables we can get.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

@Fire
Democracy. Accept you have been outvoted.

Not applicable, i can get 40 Medaka Box fans and create a thread Medaka is omnipotent and every opinion would get outvoted, it's like 40 in favor of Medaka's omnipotence, would u add that?

 

[Kepekley23]

Can you please listen to what people've been telling you and make a CRT if you want to change our standards?

 

[DMB_1]

1) Dabura brefly fought against Dark Kid Buu, who took base Xeno Vegito to defeat. Afterwise, he got resurrected and he fought Xeno SSJ4 Gogeta.

2) According to the wiki, it does.

3) Only Demon Gods come from there, which aren't fodder by any means

4) Nobody scales to fodder.

 

[DodoNova2]

Please, don't bring Medaka Box here......

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Please, don't bring Medaka Box here......

Yah my bad.

 

[The_Everlasting]

"even though that is clear cut bullshit cus u can't train your way to "infinite speed"."

Incredulity and once again applying a standard fiction doesn't have.

 

[Antvasima]

Fundamental standards-changing threads should preferably always be staff only, or we might end up with extremely ill-considered results due to the resulting chaos.

 

[Quantu]

@Fire

Jesus Christ that false equivalence...

 

[Firephoenixearl]

1. So everyone is infinite according to this? Yeah i totally agree.

3. Yeah even the weakest one would be infinite and the top tiers would be "faster than infinite?" yeah, makes sense.

4. Fodder will scale to infinites, not infinites to fodder.