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Did Superman just... (Spoilers for Justice League 25)

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Weird coincidence that it just came out this month. So, Rebirth Future Superman is a thing now.

https://***************.to/Comic/Electric-Warriors/Issue-6?id=153751
 
Well then, I guess SPOM can be upgraded if everyone's alright with that. Tho I would suggest making 3 seperate keys for his Post Crisis, All Star and Rebirth incarnations with their respective Tiers
 
I guess if All Star Kal Kent is considered to be the same tier as his POst Crisis incarnation then yes.

I'd have made Rebirth SPOM just At Least 2-C but that rating seems fine anyway

EDIT: SPOM's All Star Tier is more appropriate now I feel
 
Just plain 2-C seems appropriate post-Flashpoint, given his long stay inside of the Sun. However, I would prefer input from Sandman31 and PrinceOfTheMorning.
 
With how long SPOM stayed in the sun, I agree with Ant that his Rebirth key should be 2-C, at the very least. Honestly I wouldn't mind 2-C, potentially higher either.
 
Alsoyou have to remember that The forger took the burnt of the force therest of the destruction was caused by the residual energy. Destructive Capabilities is not always equal to Attack Potency.
 
The World Forger's durability should also be equal to that of his two brothers, the Monitor and Anti-Monitor. Since Superman's punch was able to knock him to the ground and make him bleed, wouldn't that scale the force of Superman's punch up to the currently accepted durability-levels of the Monitors?
 
Catalyst75 said:
The World Forger's durability should also be equal to that of his two brothers, the Monitor and Anti-Monitor. Since Superman's punch was able to knock him to the ground and make him bleed, wouldn't that scale the force of Superman's punch up to the currently accepted durability-levels of the Monitors?
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The feat only involved destroying the Multiverse so he was just 2C (but I'm not really against 2A supes, cause I don't see a big outlier, now that his 2C feat is totally legit)
 
 
Owennoctis said:
we use the Morrison's map (Perpetua's creation), we work outwards

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80518/6897136-3014614182-1AxV2.jpg The third dimension is the DC prime multiverse, where most of DC stories take place in. DC is a omniverse consist of infinite multiverses https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80518/6897137-0147744403-Hv5aV.jpg

Outside the third dimension sits the wonderworld, it sits above the third dimension. The perception and scale are already altered in this dimension. This dimension is below the Gods Sphere

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897110-1756701276-Yxd2S.jpg

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Then we move to Sphere of Gods, the New God Realm for example is a dimensional plane above the third dimension.(looking at the map) it doesn't have a numerical designation or maybe it's a dimension with fractions like Mxy once stated. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80518/6897117-inf d2.jpg

From the New God's Realm perspective, the prime DC multiverse exists as infinitesimal bubbles.

We know for a fact that New Gods need to shrink in size when they come to the third dimension main multiverse. Darkseid is normal size being in Apokolips, but when his true size came to earth-2 he was the size of a solar system. That's how big and vast New Gods Realm compare to the main multiverse. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897119-7388648201-3FQRG.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897120-6703064712-3HiPn.jpg

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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897122-6378934925-43891.jpg

hen Darkseid was falling from the New God Realm directly into the 3rd dimension in his completely unaltered/full-scale state(ala Final Crisis), he was described to be as large as the entire multiverse: https://i.imgur.com/X7nlqjQ.jpg "I'm the only one who can see the shadow. This gigantic shadow cast across the multiverse. Falling over everything." Above the Sphere of Gods we have Limbo Realm. This is where they recycle the unused stories and characters, where the infinite book of limbo is kept. (the book of infinite knowledge)

From this realm forward we are entering metatextual concepts https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-6897123

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897124-6269586349-fr9R0.jpg

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After that, We have the Monitor Realm, this is the fourth dimension, the fourth dimension is literally time itself. To comprehend how big the Monitor Realm is. The entire limbo is the size of Thought Robot's hand. The prime DC multiverse is entirely infinitesimal in comparison.

The Monitors refer to the entire Creation as "germ world". This realm is metatexual in nature where we have manifestation of narrative and highly advanced thought forms. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897129-7065583873-pgmy7.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/80518/6897130-6800632869-DjYvv.jpg

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the multiverse is 4th dimensional, while existing in a 5th dimensional bulk known as bleed space, as the bleed was confirmed to rotate on a fixed point in the 5th dimension, the sphere of the gods exist beyond that.
 
Let's wait for PrinceOfTheMorning to update the page, so we can close this.
 
I wonder if Kal Kent would scale as well? He does get power directly from the Super Sun, which is powered by SPOM and he does grant his descendants a piece of his power

Would just kinda suck to be the Superman that's meant to be OP but is actually the runt.
 
He is OP compared to Post-Crisis Superman.
 
I mean Kal Kent would still be stronger than Supe's at regular levels at least. Maybe he'd be capable of the same kind of boost after several Sun Dips, but that's purely speculative
 
Shouldn't we add "His approach was felt across every dimensions" on sun dipped superman speed justification?
 
For whoever edits SPOM's page should put

Unknown | At Least 4-A | At Least Low 5-B | At Least 2-C, Likely Far Higher

Unknown is for all three since their overall power is still unknown. First Tier is for Post Crisis SPOM Second Tier is for All Star Superman SPOM and Third Tier is for Rebirth Superman.
 
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