demon slayer lightning

[Passersby]

(first thread ever, i don't know if i f**ked something up but do forgive me if i did)

the manga shows sekido summoning Vertical bolts at range while on level ground indicating sky to ground lightning

season 3 episode 6 shows the same, with sekido summoning vertical bolts to attack tanjiro nezuko and genya

so unless the lightning bolts curved from his staff high enough to look like they are coming from the sky there is no reason for them not to be coming from the sky since sekido is on level ground with tanjiro and the rest when summoning the attacks.,i bleive this can confirm that sekiddo's blood demon art is indeed lightning speed


zohahkuten also summoned sky to ground lightning in episode 10, the time frame is 11:44,11:45 and 11:46




and since zohakuten absorbed has all the 4 emotion clones's blood demon arts and he unleashed the same attacks simply from a different medium as in the wood dragons, does this feat qualify mitsurie for a MHS speed rating?

agree (about the lightning being real): @speedster352 @ShadowWhoWalks @DemonGodMitchAubin @SuperStar @chosen @Rau @CloverDragon03 @Greatsage13th @Serlock_Holmes @Stryker861 @DarkDragonMedeus

neutral: @Nierre

disagree: @LIFE_OF_KING

 

[Ped2018]

season 3 episode 6 shows the same

Timestamp?

 

[Passersby]

Timestamp?

from 4:20 to 4:25 and from 5:56 to 6:01

 

[speedster352]

I agree with the op

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Anime scenes in question:



I agree.

 

[Passersby]

Anime scenes in question:



I agree.

thanks for the scenes and feedback

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I agree that it's legit lightning

 

[SuperStar]

Agreed

 

[Passersby]

...not complaining, but my first thread is going way smoother than i tought it would be


edit: yeah this aged terribly didn't it?

 

[chosen]

I also agree is legit lighting

 

[Rau]

if it is the same speed as a normal lightning speed, it is acceptable. (may need some more calc)

I agree is legit lightning

 

[Passersby]

Uhh...
So what now?

I didn't think of what to do after people agree with this

 

[Ped2018]

Uhh...
So what now?

I didn't think of what to do after people agree with this

You need 2-3 staff (thread mods, admins) agreements, and to wait till 48 hours after you posted the thread for it to be considered accepted.

In this case, you already got @DemonGodMitchAubin vote, so you still need 1 or 2 votes.

 

[Damage3245]

Are these stated to be lightning? From what I've been led to believe, Sekido just controls electricity. Meaning these aren't necessarily lightning bolts coming from the sky.

EDIT: I see in the original manga it is referred to as lightning. I don't think the scans are clear enough to show it coming from the sky though.

 

[KLOL506]

Wasn't this already debated and rejected a year or three ago?

 

[Damage3245]

Wasn't this already debated and rejected a year or three ago?

If there was a previous thread on it, that'd be helpful.

 

[Passersby]

Are these stated to be lightning? From what I've been led to believe, Sekido just controls electricity. Meaning these aren't necessarily lightning bolts coming from the sky.

EDIT: I see in the original manga it is referred to as lightning. I don't think the scans are clear enough to show it coming from the sky though.

What about the anime scenes?

Plus the bolts are verticle while he himself is on level ground with the others

 

[Ped2018]

Wasn't this already debated and rejected a year or three ago?

The anime wasn't out by then

 

[SuperStar]

Wasn't this already debated and rejected a year or three ago?

That was lightning from Kaigaku Upper Moon 6 which was debunked almost a year ago.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Actually, no it isn't clound-to-ground
In Sekido's case, the lightning comes from the bottom of his staff
In Zohakuten's case, it comes from his Dragon heads

 

[Passersby]

even more evidence for sky to ground is in ep 5

time stamp is from 8:24 to 8:41

 

[Passersby]

Actually, no it isn't clound-to-ground
In Sekido's case, the lightning comes from the bottom of his staff
In Zohakuten's case, it comes from his Dragon heads

read the thread above + watch the anime scenes for comfirmation

he does indeed summon sky to ground lightning

 

[Damage3245]

read the thread above + watch the anime scenes for comfirmation

he does indeed summon sky to ground lightning

The anime clips either don't show them coming from the sky for some of them, or show them coming from his staff.

 

[Passersby]

The anime clips either don't show them coming from the sky for some of them, or show them coming from his staff.

True but unless you think the lightning curves out from his staff when all he does with that is tap it on the ground to summon it then the vertical showing of the bolts have it coming from the sky.

even if it's not shown it doesn't really change the fact that on Panel and in the anime we do see that at range the bolts come vertically down to attack

 

[Ped2018]

Yeah, gotta agree with Damage, we never see the attacks coming from the sky, and every attack made by Hantengu came from his staff and/or his dragons, so assuming that these specific attacks came from the sky is kinda of a strech imo.

 

[Ped2018]

True but unless you think the lightning curves out from his staff

I think it's safer to assume this than sky to ground lightning.

 

[Passersby]

I think it's safer to assume this than sky to ground lightning.

why?
how is it safer to assume that the staff is able to summon lightning but they all curve up to the sky then come down to attack than having the veritcal lightning bolts come from the sky?

edit: there is also a showing of zohakuten summoning sky to ground lightning in the anime, it's pretty clear as well

 

[Ped2018]

why?
how is it safer to assume that the staff is able to summon lightning but they all curve up to the sky then come down to attack than having the veritcal lightning bolts come from the sky?

Because Hantengu never performs any lightning attack that didn't come from his staff, trying to assume that these off-screen attacks came from the sky is a strech for me as i said above.

 

[Metalballrun]

It's safer to assume because we don't see the lightning as cloud-to-ground in the first place, but we do see those lightning produced by Sekido and Zohakuten.
He may be simply attacking them overhead, with the manga version making things definitely appear that way.

For what it's worth we also see Zohakuten attacking with sound waves in conjunction with electricity.

 

[Passersby]

Because Hantengu never performs any lightning attack that didn't come from his staff, trying to assume that these off-screen attacks came from the sky is a strech for me as i said above.

he summons said lightning via tapping the staff on the ground, that's all he does with the staff
the lightning summoned via tapping the staff on the ground is vertical and the summoner himself he himself is on level ground when the vertical bolts are summoned

so bleiving tha he is able to summon lightning but they all curve up to the sky high enough to look vertical when coming down to attack when all he does is tap the ground with it to summon it instead of him summoning the sky to ground lightning via tapping the staff on the ground isn't exactly more reasonable

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Me when Im Mach 1200 but I have trouble against sound attacks and bullets

 

[Ped2018]

Me when Im Mach 1200 but I have trouble against sound attacks and bullets

Sorry, but 2 bad examples.

 

[Passersby]

Me when Im Mach 1200 but I have trouble against sound attacks and bullets

tanjiro was easily dodging sound attacks in season 1 when he was way weaker, not to mention he was caught off guard in that scene as he was down and not exacly in an optimal position to dodge

and the demons allowed themselves to be attacked in order to split up

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

tanjiro was easily dodging sound attacks in season 1 when he was way weaker,

Yes, not much changes. Most of the dodges that happened at that fight have subsonic results

and the demons allowed themselves to be attacked in order to split up

Yeah?

 

[Ped2018]

tanjiro was easily dodging sound attacks in season 1 when he was way weaker, not to mention he was caught off guard in that scene as he was down and not exacly in an optimal position to dodge

and the demons allowed themselves to be attacked in order to split up

Also, we can literally see his legs being grabbed.

Yeah?

Weapon was stuck+Surprise attack+The gun and bullets are made from funny magical metal so none of this matters and the gun would just scale higher.

 

[Damage3245]

Me when Im Mach 1200 but I have trouble against sound attacks and bullets

Scaling is a separate topic really.

 

[Passersby]

It's safer to assume because we don't see the lightning as cloud-to-ground in the first place, but we do see those lightning produced by Sekido and Zohakuten.
He may be simply attacking them overhead, with the manga version making things definitely appear that way.

For what it's worth we also see Zohakuten attacking with sound waves in conjunction with electricity.

no, he was 100% on level ground with them when summoning the lightning bolts, you can watch the anime scenes and read the manga panels

zohakuten prefers to summon his techniques via the wood dragons but he can use them without them, example when he used urogi's sonic beam with his mounth



he can also summon sky to ground lightning as shown in the anime scene

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Weapon was stuck+

The spear is piercing the guy's torso, the demon's hand was free and he could have moved whenever he wanted

Surprise attack

They were in front of each other and the guy literally laughed first to shoot

The gun and bullets are made from funny magical metal so none of this matters and the gun would just scale higher.

Bullets are made of a nonreal material yeah, but who cares. The speed of a bullet comes from gunpowder and friction. Furthermore, the properties of such a material are similar to metal, which would make the bullets slow as they are heavy

Scaling is a separate topic really.

I mean, characters having a hard time dodging bullets but being able to dodge "lightning" constantly is a big ass antifeat

 

[Ped2018]

I mean, characters having a hard time dodging bullets but being able to dodge "lightning" constantly is a big ass antifeat

The validity of the lightning does not concern the scaling, we're trying to see if the lightning has real lightning speed, not if characters dodging it are outliers.

 

[Passersby]

The spear is piercing the guy's torso, the demon's hand was free and he could have moved whenever he wanted

supirse attack+ he wanted to get the spear out

They were in front of each other and the guy literally laughed first to shoot

talking is free action, i bleive that's a thing

Bullets are made of a nonreal material yeah, but who cares. The speed of a bullet comes from gunpowder and friction. Furthermore, the properties of such a material are similar to metal, which would make the bullets slow as they are heavy

and pillars can give the nichirin metal their swords are made of special propreties by touching the non nichirin handle

I mean, characters having a hard time dodging bullets but being able to dodge "lightning" constantly is a big ass antifeat

bullets shot from a gun made with a fictiniol metal, it's already established that a way weaker tanjiro is already subsonic even when injured, let alone uppermoon 4

arguing that all the character are supersonic because the failed to dodge bullets fired by a gun made from fictional metal when it's clearly shonwn they're way faster than that is simply applying a limitation of reality on to a fictional setting, especially when said setting has been shown to contradict the real life limitation