Whatever shape it takes is completely irrelevant to how his attack lands where he aims.
no, the shape of the attack does in fact matter in this case since they're all vertical and thus it's easy to deduce since the very caster of the lightning is literally on level ground with you that the vertical lightning bolts are coming from the sky, something very clearly shown in the anime that animated the feats that did not come out of nowhere but the manga in a way that gives 100% evidence that the lightning bolts definitely came from the sky
The entire argument runs of the belief that his attacks cannot be manipulated and aimed, which requires evidence for such
no, it runs on the bleif that the character has a brain cell count that at least contains 2 digits and will not manipulate the lightning bolts(if he had the ability to do so, something you yourself need to prove) to go to the sky high enough to look vertical when coming down then send them down on the targets that are on level ground with him instead of just sending them in a straight line especially when this is a fight to the death
also the burden of proof is on you here, not on me as all the claims i did provide were backed up with scans anime scenes and sufficient logic, your reasoning functions on the possibility of sekido having the intelligence of a karen on heat that wants to speak to the president of the country because the mcndonalds employee isn't giving her extra sauce
We see in the fight against the Hashira that the lightning does bend and travel in any way it wants until it hits his target.
no we don't, at least i don't know where you got the scene of lightning going up to the sky then down to attack the hashira(mitsuri i presume?) at least i don't remember such a thing happening
i also don't understand what you mean by bend and how severe it is as you have zero scans so please do provide that, much appreciated
The lightning appears to be bending from an angle and not straight down. That’s just how it looks to me.
either you have the eye sight of a bat or my glasses are clouding my vision but either way "that's just how it looks to me" is no argument when they're all objectively vertical with the caster standing on level ground with the characters he is trying to attack so unless you give your reasoning and show us why the anime scenes aka the animated version of the manga scenes done with the supervison of the author herself that do not contradict said manga scenes in any way shape or form makes the lightning bolts appear to bending from an angle instead of being vertical i would very much like to recommend you to visit an ophthalmologist and to buy some glasses
He can create all the dragons at will. Assuming that there’s absolutely no dragons require more evidence than assuming he still had dragons or created more.
the evidence is our sight,
no dragons on sight neither in the anime nor the manga and we do not see him create any either until the very next scene, you're claiming there are dragons when we can see none and said dragons that we can't see mysteriously disappeared the next scene as he had to create more via tapping the drums both in the anime and manga instead of using the dragons that, again none of us can see neither in the anime or manga and you're the one telling i need to bring evidence to prove that there are no dragons when both the manga and anime show none at all and all you have is a statement telling me that he can create more dragons so maybe there are more we can't and they are very high up in the sky and he used them to summon the lightning shown
this logic has more holes than the plot of the flash show the cw is working on and that alone speaks volumes
fancy way to say the burden of proof is on you here
Him being capable of using their techniques with his body in no way is evidence for what you’re asserting. He’s a fusion of all the Demons, one of the demons ability is to literally shoot sound waves out his mouth. This is a none factor.
wonderful, so you agree that despite him using urogi soundwaves with the wooden dragons as medium, he can also use the sound waves aka urogi's blood demon art without the dragons indicating he can use his techniques without the wooden dragons as i said earlier and he just prefers to use them with the dragons
se we're in an agreement
awesome
It doesn’t contradict or support anything. It not contradicting anything does not depict it being an accurate representation. It’s adding additional scenes that were never present in the manga.
Let me make a scenario for you.
Tanjiro swings his sword and created a giant shockwave, while the manga doesn’t fully show the outcome the anime shows him destroying a mountain.
There’s no “contradiction” so does this make it ok to use? You answer that question.
yes, the author supervised the animating process making it 100% usable and even if she did not, for as long as the anime does not contradict the manga any information it provides about the show is completely usable
you answer the question of why it's not
It’s completely dubious to argue he’s using an attack directly in their view when, according to you, he can summon dozens of them from the sky above them. Why would he actively shoot it at them from a place they can easily see when he can summon them from the sky where it’s almost impossible to watch at all times while fighting him? Why not summon them from the sky at all times?
because he prefers to use his techniques with the dragons and the range is closer, it's way easier to dodge a lightning bolt coming from the sky than to dodge one coming at you from 50 meters away, in fact the only times he did not use the dragons was when mitsuri was being carried by the others and thus unable to move and he sent tens of lightning bolts covering a huge range isntead of just a few to make sure it's lethal and that none of them can dodge it, but as soon as she was back up and running he used the wooden dragons
whatever the case it's way more logical than him instantly creating dragons sending high to the sky for some reason then commanding them to send lightning as you proudly claimed it to be the case unless i provide evidence against it....
i'm just going to say again that the burden of proof is on you here
The one coming from his mouth is drawn traveling upwards.
..i cannot see it go upwards no matter how i look at it, all i see is the lightning bolt going to the left
see, this is up ↑
all i see is the lightning bolt going this way ←
I refuse
...well thank you for your time anyways
And just to point this out, your entire argument is baseless. Not in the sense that you have no evidence supporting it, but that you’re arguing everything from scratch. Interpretation.
no, wrong word, that's called deduction
i'm not interpreting that the lightning bolts are vertical timmy the animated feats supervised by the author make that 100% clear and free from interpretations, i'm deducing based on that that this is sky to ground lightning
With no scenes of the attacks coming from the clouds, it’s essentially an assumption to assume the results from some of the attacks are because it comes from the clouds.
the vertical lightning bolts summoned by someone on level ground with you are coming from the sky
where is the assumption here?
if you call seeing traces of a human's bite on someone's arm and deducing he must have been bit by a human on his arm an assumption than all i can say is that it's not and you're wrong
There’s no evidence for this, it’s all assumptions. What we do know is that all instances of his lightning being shown to come from something, it’s a source that is not the clouds.
no timmy, we do not know, in fact this thread is all about the fact that he summons lightning from the sky and not his staff something you and anyone for that matter has yet to provide evidence agaisnt
“His attacks are coming from above so it must be the clouds.”
As easy as you can assert that I can claim
“He can freely control his attacks and can make them travel any direction he wants”
very easy, but you see there is something called common sens that you didn't take into consideration when thinking about the decision
let's take a quiz for this occasion
in a fight to the death what would a character with 10 brain cells do
1 send the lightning bolts to the sky high enough so that they would look vertical when coming down then send them down to attack
or
2 send the lightning bolt straight to the enemie he is facing
i look forward to hearing your response
When Tanjiro and Nezuko is fighting the demons why doesn’t he just spam the bolts from above? Instead of constantly spamming easily telegraphed attacks from his staff? They’re inside a building, they’d have no way of dodging something they can’t see.
....did you not see the anime scenes?
look no forward than the first one
When Tanjiro blocks his attack using the Demons claw, why doesn’t he just summon some from the sky so Tanjiro cannot absorb them? When you argue like this previous scenes just doesn’t make sense.
because tanjiro slashed him then gave his defenseess back to him making blowing his head off when he was that close to him is far easier
And upon looking at the scans, we NEVER see the attacks coming from any clouds. In the first scan we literally see the lightning coming off of his staff TRAVEL UPWARDS, and then we see lighting raining down onto Tanjiro and Nezuko. This matches my interpretation far more than the Op’s.
ah yes, thanks for providing more evidence of the fact that zohakuten can use his techniques wihout the dragons as we see the same electricity flowing trough his body before summoning the lightning bolts from the sky the same way sekido's staff was operating
that's cool at least
anyways, i'll leave shadow' part to him
i'll sleep as i have a sheep to slaughter tommorrow, and i'm no lunatic, i'm a muslim
eid mobarak guys wish you all the best
you 2 timmy, good night pal
