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Death Battle Season Six Discussion Thread (6) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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ETitanCrusher101 said:
I'm very confused as to how PS works, someone explain?
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Every sin you've ever did up to and including white lies instantly hits your body with the pain that came out of said sins. Lobo is a sadomasochist. Thanos thought the Penance Stare was beautiful and he smiled. I don't see why Lobo couldn't react the same way considering he LOVED spending time in Hell.
 
Not gonna lie that Death Battle was booty. Ed definitely should have taken that before the Avatar State would even become an issue. Although the battle did make me realize that the FMA profiles are outdated. Ed's AP should remain the same but his durability should get an upgrade.
 
Js250476 said:
Death Battle doesn't work like that they let people fight at there max potential.
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Then Edward should have gotten his stone, especially since they also used 2003 for whatever reason. It's kinda funny how they ignored the feats from that like Ed making a massive wall around a mountain.
 
TitanCrusher101 said:
@Xtas It won't hurt him then, tie.
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Again, if someone can come up with the soul destroying Penance Stare feat, let me have it.
 
Um they specified in a black tex box at the start of Ed's analysis that it was primarily based on the manga and Brotherhood only using 2003 for supporting evidence if it wasn't to out there compared to the rest.
 
Eficiente said:
http://i.imgur.com/kixirab.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VNBBMOB.jpg

There he uses the ps on a spirit and it is reduced to ash. Also DC's Hell needs feats of giving the same amount of pain the ps would give.
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That specifically works on spirits only. He once used the Penance Stare on an angel for telling a white lie and the angel turned into dust. It's not really the normal way his power works.
 
Lobo being a sado-********* doesn't mean anything. The Penance Stare has worked multiple times on people who enjoy causing harm. Oh, and even if the Penance Stare fails for some reason, Johnny can always eat Lobo's soul.
 
Congrats, you just realized the way the Penance Stare works. It does attack the soul, but it's not a soul destroyer. Lobo caused mayhem in Hell just a soul, why are you people having this so hard to get around. Lobo isn't a normal being, he's on Thanos' level of enjoying pain. And Thanos tanked it. I'm getting bored of repeating things right now.
 
Lobo surviving as a soul doesn't mean he can live without it. That's not how it works at all. You do realize that Ghost Rider will eventually eat Lobo's soul and then game over. And Thanos wasn't even evil when Ghost Rider tried it. In fact, that wasn't even Johnny Blaze.
 
Same concept of a character and him not being evil doesn't mean that the Penance Stare should not work. Ghost Rider is an agent of God and Lobo is barred from Heaven cause God doesn't want him, so he might not even be able to eat his soul up.
 
That is the dumbest logic ever. If Johnny eats Lobo's soul it's not going to transport Lobo's soul to Heaven. And there's a difference between Marvel's God and DC's God.
 
It doesn't matter, he's still an agent of God.

"There's a difference between Marvel's God and DC's God."

Not really. Their looks might be different, but I'm pretty sure they're part of the same OMNIVERSE according to the writers, which means they're basically the same thing.
 
The Presence is the Christian God, and he is afraid of letting Lobo into Heaven. He is also one of the strongest beings in the DC universe. By comparision, the Christian God in Marvel is a lot weaker and he has Ghost Rider as an agent.

Considering the Presence > Yahweh, and considering that a stronger version of the Christian God doesn't want Lobo, it would mean a weaker version's agent would fare bad with him. LOL
 
The Presence being scared of Lobo is a massive outlier. Don't try to use that as a justification. Your entire argument is using outliers and cross-scaling to say "Lobo can survive anything Ghost Rider can do". If Lobo hasn't been shown to survive without his soul, he can't. End of story.
 
HAHAHAHAHAH. Outlier? "Heaven doesn't want him, Hell is afraid he'll take over" is his entire character. Your entire debating skills rely on people taking everything you regurgigate at face value all while insulting people who do not agree with the things you say. You have failed to convince me a few times and I sincerely doubt you ever will. I keep giving you reasons why he can and will survive and you refuse to believe them. That's on you buddy. Keep screaming outlier though.
 
Do we have a scene of how Ghost Rider "hurt a soul" with Penance Stare and without?

And how Lobo defeats enemies that has resistance, immortality and defensive hax similar to Ghost Rider's?

These are questions that count.
 
Jasonsith said:
Do we have a scene of how Ghost Rider "hurt a soul" with Penance Stare and without?
And how Lobo defeats enemies that has resistance, immortality and defensive hax similar to Ghost Rider's?

These are questions that count.
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Lobo has fought against Etrigan, who has similar powers to Ghost Rider. He has taken his hellfire too, and while he felt discomfort, it wasn't the ending move it would be against most other people.

Etrigan was also one of the demons that wanted him out of Hell, as he was afraid Lobo would take over.
 
You really think Presence being scared of letting Lobo into Heaven automatically makes him superior to Ghost Rider's soul eating? Your entire argument is terrible. You haven't given any viable reasons for why Lobo can survive his soul getting destroyed/eaten. Yet again, surviving without your body as a soul doesn't mean you can sit that. And it is an outlier. You're saying Lobo can survive getting his soul eaten because Ghost Rider is an agent of God, and DC's God is superior. And since Lobo makes the Presence scared, he wouldn't be affected. Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You are honestly stupid if you think that makes any sense, whatsoever.
 
"A character from DC that is superior to the one in Marvel while sharing the same traits is afraid of Lobo"

WHAT THE ****? THAT'S NOT HOW SCALING WORKS? YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

Cut the insulting buddy, it's not a good look on you. You're honestly pretty annoying. You shouldn't be debating if you can't keep your temper down. It's not an outlier if it's a defining trait of the character. Please learn how to act like a normal human being during a debate.

Lobo survived as a soul in DC's Hell. People were AFRAID he'd take over. I keep mentioning Etrigan only, but it's pretty obvious that are even stronger things in Hell if you've read Sandman. Which I doubt you have, cause you only use the profiles and then scream outlier if you're proven wrong.

You are literally the least entertaining person I have ever met online, please learn proper human etiquette. Jesus.
 
For the record, I don't believe the Presence is scared. But the fact that he was banned from Heaven and Hell means he's a lot stronger than you give him credit for And the Presence is a lot stronger interpretation of the Christian God than Yahweh in Marvel is. Sorry mate.
 
Do you understand anything? The Presence is 1-A while Lobo is 4-B! If the Presence wanted to, he could blast Lobo into oblivion. Lobo has never shown anything else that even remotely comes close to 1-A. It doesn't matter if it's a trait of Lobo. Arguing that is the dumbest thing ever. I'm getting frustrated because you are too too stubborn. You don't even realize the simplest logic.
 
It's not scaling you fool, I'm just saying that Lobo being barred from Heaven and Hell should be taken as the amazing feat that it is. Which you clearly do not understand. I'm not saying that Lobo can ******* take the Presence in a fight yet you keep twisting the simplest ******* sentences around. I'm saying that the Presence considers Lobo a threat big enough to not let into Hell or Heaven. And that's a defining ******* character trait. What is so ******* hard to understand from your side?
 
You are literally saying that because of that, Lobo can survive his soul getting eating? What kind of ******* logic is that. You've never shown me anything that proves Lobo can survive without his soul.
 
HE. ALMOST. CONQUERED. HELL. AS. JUST. A. SOUL.

ETRIGAN, WHO HAS THE SAME HELLFIRE ABILITY, WAS AFRAID OF HIM TAKING OVER. BUDDY, READ. MY. POSTS.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
Although the battle did make me realize that the FMA profiles are outdated. Ed's AP should remain the same but his durability should get an upgrade.
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The thing is they indeed used Father Blast for scaling, and the attack did not hurted only him but the others as well, since May is one of the char. with lowest dura [even though Alphonse also shielded her] and almost everyone has traded blows with eachother its going to scale to all the characters ap and dura.

Death Battle calc wielded 30 KT aka Town level, while the Iwandesu one was 55 KT for its high-end aka Town level+ the scaling will be likely 7-C to at least 7-C for the cast. 7-C+ for the top tiers since Father did easily the feat and Honeheim was still standing after taking it.

The reason i did not scaled them before is because they were previously shown to be harmed by stuff lower than tier 7, its a massive jump and removes the glass cannon status of some char., but since ive recently saw verses getting high jumpes i guess its also going to happen to this one.

For speed there is Bradley escaping from the train before being destroyed, but it is likely be lower than his mach 5.76 slicing feat.
 
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