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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Tried one of my own MUs on the 'who wins?' chart:
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Ranges are always open to discussion
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Takes your phone away cuz you outdebated them in a who wins a fight
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wait, is she near or full 30s?
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Wow this is awesome, this should be shared very informative.
My friend Keith made this.
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Solomon Grundy vs Merkava
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Haha, John’s narrative retcon powers go brrr
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They do go brrrr and all but also, John just can't kill Frisk.
So uh, a stalemate.
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Gonna also give reasoning why all of em are stalemate:
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Frisk vs John: John can't kill Frisk due to determination/reset, while Frisk can't harm John due to latter being Multi+.
EXE vs RED: RED has an immortality EXE can't bypass, but RED also can't do much against EXE
Omori vs Batter: Omori is uni and has immortalised but can't kill Batter became Player saves him.
If DB were making an episode then probably instead of tie they'll just pick John, EXE and Omori.
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They can negate Caliborn/Lord English’s narrative plot armor and high-godly regen, Frisk doing a “time, huh” through DETERMINATION ain’t gonna do shit against fate/plot manipulation that can negate other plot/fate manipulation.
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It’s literally the sequel to Archie Sonic VS Waly West.
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Plot and time manipulate are different things.
Negating plot shenanigans doesn't means negating time shenanigans cause they're different abilities.
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If Frisk's determination was plot hax and not time hax then yes.
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Caliborn was “the Lord of Time” with complete control over all aspects of time and ANY timeline that didn’t lead to his creation or victory was predestined to fail and shrivel to nothing and this applied to the infinite timelines, stories, and multiverses of Paradox Space. John circumvented this by just, MAKING A NEW NARRATIVE outside LE’s influence which shouldn’t have been possible.
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What’s the other case?
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Ok that's still a plot hax not time hax.
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The case is not Bill scaling to 11D beings but about the fact that 11 dimensions exist in GF and 2D universe's existence proves that. Bill with weirmageddon is able to achieve to said 11D.
Just to keep myself clear, it's not through aliens, they only prove thay GF's cosmology has 11 dimensions.
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IDK, maybe I'm reading this the wrong way, but I feel that should be enough to net John the win.
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Why does the distinction matter? In Homestuck the Time Aspect and plot/narrative progression are intertwined if not one in the same. What’s stopping John Egbert from just saying “no” to Frisk’s reset and dooming them to an unavoidable death like LE does do any other Time player that tries to screw with his plans? John’s retcon powers are basically what wankers think GER is, but on CRACK
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Boomstick: And that's why John can beat Goku.
(No wait, that meme works better with Spongebob...)
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I mean, again plot/fate manipulation and time manipulation are opposite abilities.
I mean is there something that explicitly says narrative = time? Like, I recently started to read Homestuck because of this MU and all so I do know that its narrative goes through several time frames but I still don't think time = plot here.
I'll look about it more later in the series I guess.
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"Linda! Jai! Iris! Help me now!"
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How would that work?
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Don’t get what u mean here cause Wally didn’t circumnavigate Sonic’s fate haxx thru any ability of his own. I’m not sure if the equivalence here
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I meant as a reverse
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With John vs Frisk it'll probably be something "Jade! Rose! Dave! Help me now!"
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Jesus wins as Goku accept him into his heart
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Civil War for Mexico
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It's the AoT music and awful video quality that seals it
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LMAO
Off topic:
Any good sprite sheets or even 3d models for Altair (Re:Creators)
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