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actually I’m curious do you consider the debunk blog here in vs wiki to be effective in what it debunks?Not really, I doubt Speedy is able to convince folks lol
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actually I’m curious do you consider the debunk blog here in vs wiki to be effective in what it debunks?Not really, I doubt Speedy is able to convince folks lol
I dont play DMC so I have 0% significant insight on its workings and with that I dont remember much of either blogs and arguments.actually I’m curious do you consider the debunk blog here in vs wiki to be effective in what it debunks?
Yeah but the canon DB cosmology is so small compared to Heros, and Dragon Ball as a franchise is simple, and not constant, so there isn't that big of a head start. Other franchises have been nonstop in pumping out continuations of their stories, where there was a massive hiatus after GT from Super.I don’t think they’d buy the cosmic stuff for Samus to make her fight a multi doom guy, they’ll probably still make her fight X.
To be fair, Xeno is still building off the pre-existing entire history of DB as a whole for it’s cosmology (and DB is a much older franchise than Sonic) which gives it a better head start than most verses, but it still kinda suffers the same issues that DBS does with its matchups of just not having as expansive a cosmology and relying largely on multipliers.
DBHs issue is that it placed a hard lock on its cosmology with its story structure (the whole finite time scrolls thing really hurts its potential a lot lol) and a lot of its potential higher dimensional scaling requires a lot of leniency due to not really using wordage required for higher dimensional spaces.
I don’t really see the verse getting higher than 2A and baseline L1C with leniency unless there’s some major changes down the line lol.
He already said. There starting from the ground upNot really, I doubt Speedy is able to convince folks lol
Eh the Nero vs HellBoy “debunk” of Uni DMC was super bad, like it directly took shit out of context and used AoE fallacies. I don’t have high hopes for G1 to make a convincing argument against Uni DMC after thatSpeedy asked people to send him the debunks for the Nero vs HellBoy blog, looks like they will do a rebuttal/response
Let's just hope they don't become desperate enough to make Dragon Ball Evolution canon...Yeah but the canon DB cosmology is so small compared to Heros, and Dragon Ball as a franchise is simple, and not constant, so there isn't that big of a head start. Other franchises have been nonstop in pumping out continuations of their stories, where there was a massive hiatus after GT from Super.
That's besides the point, Heros is just going to continue to get stronger, who knows where it will be in a few years. We could get new wild shit.
There isn't much of a headstart, as canon DB is pretty simplistic compared to other verses on its level. So my points still stand
Oh yeah I forget that you don’t like how modern debating goes lmao.I dont play DMC so I have 0% significant insight on its workings and with that I dont remember much of either blogs and arguments.
But modern VS sucks so I almost would want to root against imagining Dante destroying an universe. And thats a gargantuan lowball here :V
bruh didn’t they also say in the blog itself that prima guide are bad, but then use one in the blog?Eh the Nero vs HellBoy “debunk” of Uni DMC was super bad, like it directly took shit out of context and used AoE fallacies. I don’t have high hopes for G1 to make a convincing argument against Uni DMC after that
Don't joke about that.Let's just hope they don't become desperate enough to make Dragon Ball Evolution canon...
If your stats breaks the story of the verse, that's bad. That's why lasers suck, lightspeed is way too stupid fast. And nowadays stuff just keeps getting too high in VS. We give way too much benefit of the doubt.Oh yeah I forget that you don’t like how modern debating goes lmao.
To be fair it could end up being a completely different group of people then who was on Nero v HellboyEh the Nero vs HellBoy “debunk” of Uni DMC was super bad, like it directly took shit out of context and used AoE fallacies. I don’t have high hopes for G1 to make a convincing argument against Uni DMC after that
To be fair, we can only ignore what the writers/creators put into the series for so long. Eventually things become a little too blatant / consistent to not include even if realistically things would **** with the story to a degree. Like if there’s 5 separate indications of universal feats performed by the same character, or dozens of light speed feats, or 9 infinite speed feats across multiple characters in the same series, it’s hard to deny it just because it would be silly.If your stats breaks the story of the verse, that's bad. That's why lasers suck, lightspeed is way too stupid fast. And nowadays stuff just keeps getting too high in VS. We give way too much benefit of the doubt.
Can you fill me in on the context here, what's going on with Nero vs Hellboy?To be fair it could end up being a completely different group of people then who was on Nero v Hellboy
Can you fill me in on the context here, what's going on with Nero vs Hellboy?
I dont see much trust in them after pulling that shit, let alone when they wanked geese and nitpicked canonsEh the Nero vs HellBoy “debunk” of Uni DMC was super bad, like it directly took shit out of context and used AoE fallacies. I don’t have high hopes for G1 to make a convincing argument against Uni DMC after that
Ironic right? Or better say, its hipocryticbruh didn’t they also say in the blog itself that prima guide are bad, but then use one in the blog?
Honestly i would rather take things being higher then lower, unless they are absurd levels, like how tiktok and most youtube channels try to get verses at multiversal or tier 1 shit, taking things way too literalIf your stats breaks the story of the verse, that's bad. That's why lasers suck, lightspeed is way too stupid fast. And nowadays stuff just keeps getting too high in VS. We give way too much benefit of the doubt.
That was a super pretentious read, they were making memes thinking they were right. And I thought people on here could be smarmyDeath Battle Predictions: Hellboy VS Nero
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They REALLY went in on Uni DMC lol
Bruh I think even after the debunk of G1 blog of few of them still believe universal DMC still wasn’t true.That was a super pretentious read, they were making memes thinking they were right. And I thought people on here could be smarmy
Yup. I remember when the debunk dropped and people over at the discord server went nuts lolEh the Nero vs HellBoy “debunk” of Uni DMC was super bad, like it directly took shit out of context and used AoE fallacies. I don’t have high hopes for G1 to make a convincing argument against Uni DMC after that
YepJust to confirm, Vegito vs Gogeta is releasing on RT on Tuesday right?
I am aware. That's why I said it'll be interesting when the response comes out.yall do know that g1 varies on actual people right? Some blogs have the same people, but for the most part the roster of people working on each blog varies. the way verdicts are handled have also changed since nero vs hellboy
I don't have to imagine them talking about Dragon Ball with that smarm, I'm on the DB discord. Obama publicly disagreed with Ultraguys multipliers and got told off by the modsImagine if they talked about Dragon Ball or Sonic with that snobbery lol
Man what a ******* sentenceI don't have to imagine them talking about Dragon Ball with that smarm, I'm on the DB discord. Obama publicly disagreed with Ultraguys multipliers and got told off by the mods
Honestly, it probably isn't issue for every everything. A lot of the things I see just makes me take scorched earth approach. In order to try to be less biased, I just nuke it from all. That theoretically should make things more better. But then some verses do suffer from that.stuff
So on previous point, it really is context dependent. By default I'm skeptical tho. Frankly I dunno why Im even talking about this here. This forum really doesnt do as I would and Im pretty sure this kinda thinking pisses people off here lolmore stuff
Eh I feel it's a case by case thingTo be fair, we can only ignore what the writers/creators put into the series for so long. Eventually things become a little too blatant / consistent to not include even if realistically things would **** with the story to a degree. Like if there’s 5 separate indications of universal feats performed by the same character, or dozens of light speed feats, or 9 infinite speed feats across multiple characters in the same series, it’s hard to deny it just because it would be silly.
I do agree some verses get more leniency than they should have, but others are absolutely fine as is even if their stats are a little high
I mean I guess but I don't see that being much betterHonestly i would rather take things being higher then lower, unless they are absurd levels, like how tiktok and most youtube channels try to get verses at multiversal or tier 1 shit, taking things way too literal
I mean it was back n forth on it when they did geese vs heihachi and KOF as whole has been neglected so obviously shit was gonna be somethingI dont see much trust in them after pulling that shit, let alone when they wanked geese and nitpicked canons
Lasers rule and I love that they end up causing outlandish shit like relativistic to ftl Zelda, copeThat's why lasers suck, lightspeed is way too stupid fast.
Personally I like to take a more conservative approach and put things lower rather than higher (As long as it isn't too ridiculous like building level Mario and Sonic), but I can understand preferring it the other way round.Honestly i would rather take things being higher then lower, unless they are absurd levels, like how tiktok and most youtube channels try to get verses at multiversal or tier 1 shit, taking things way too literal
Dogwater lol. Because, what the **** was that.I swear this man’s power scaling is getting worse and worse
Can I screenshot? that goes hardI don't know what to think