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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Ayo MFTL+ Overwatch?
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Rip ash.
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That title fits so many characters in fiction
Also was the theme for the 90s animated series for Spiderman in season 3 iirc, when daredevil appears during it
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Its Ash finally retiring as MC?
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My money is on the one who has the most **** of them, which is the only proper way to scaling youtubers.
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Yeah, he's getting a 11 episode miniseries to close his story and then it switches to the new kids.
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Wait doesn't Ash still have those weird remake movies?
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AFAIK, I Choose You was more of a different retelling of Ash's beginning as a trainer, while Power of Us and Secrets of the Jungle were completely original stories. Only Mewtwo Returns 3D was a straight up Remake IIRC. It's likely the next movies will simply be about the new protags.
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Wonder if fans will accept Ash story its done and he gets replaced
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Maybe it won't be so bad. Ash ended in a very high note, being the world champion and all, which is pretty much the biggest accomplishment he could achieve given his specialization as a trainer has always been battling. Being a Pokemon Master has always been kept as intentionally vague so even if Ash is not acknowledged as one in-story there won't be a feeling that he missed something beyond that his adventures continued separate from us the audience.
And quite a few people have felt that Ash was long overdue, and he should be allowed to retire and try a different protagonist like most long runner kid series do (being divided by series or sagas, and each one with a new cast), and that needing to always have Ash is what kept the guy from getting any meaningful developments for so long.
And quite a few people have felt that Ash was long overdue, and he should be allowed to retire and try a different protagonist like most long runner kid series do (being divided by series or sagas, and each one with a new cast), and that needing to always have Ash is what kept the guy from getting any meaningful developments for so long.
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To be fair, the World Coronation Series had him beat other regional champions (as in the final bosses of the games, we had Lance, Steven, Cynthia, Diantha and Iris) in order to get to Leon, the World Champion himself and in order to qualify to begin with he had to go through a pretty long set of qualification and elimination matches. He did not quite did it in an organized tourney, but Ash essentially did beat competition on the level of a regional league to even get a shot at the finals.
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I wonder if the Greninja shitstorm wasnt so big would this have happened lol
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Still, its hard to move on to new chatacters that replace the ones before them,
Heck dragon ball couldnt let go of goku and prolly wont ever
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Gohan as mc would have lead to way different direction for Dragon Ball, and frankly I'm not sure would that direction ever been a good idea.
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Alright, if Liquid does show up, would you say he should get Ray?
Alright, but any reason why not?
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Pretty much Ash was that character folks were familiar with since the start
To me I find if a mixture of bout time and yet why now?
Ash should've gotten it done years ago allowing new blood to take rain yet to do it now at this stage feels bitter sweet
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It only scales to the perception speed of omnics and the speed of tracer's blink and genji's swift strike
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I get that but I still not the biggest fan of it. Like one of the most important parts of pokemon was the adventure, like sure Ash loosing ever league was frustrating but there was still adventure before hand, Ash becoming the world championship just because feels less like a natural ending to the series and more like Game Freak telling them they have one season to rap up Ash's story.
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per speedy, G1 blogs during the off season will consist of old Death Battle rematches and characters with small amount of media. No anime characters this time
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As someone who actually picked and enjoyed using Greninja in both Gen 6 and Smash 4, I actually found the shitstorm to be hilarious. It's was so deserved too, considering the blatant and unapologetic favouritism the ninja frog got (it straight up surpassed the likes of Lucario, Charizard and even Pikachu in terms of popularity at one point in Japan) while nutty paladin and fox witch barely got anything (except Braxien getting into Pokken, btw I would love a proper sequel to that game), I'm so glad Ash-Greninja lost in the Kalos league after all that overbearing hype.
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Man, DB communities do be hating anime a lot lately.
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It's still recognized as championship league win
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Personally I would have much perfered if Pokemon had ended with just a random world championship with a bunch of random character from the series that we haven't seen in 500 episodes. Like Ash rematching a bunch of poeple who beat him in the past or some random movie exclusive characters would hit way harder then him beating Steven or Leon.
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Pretty sure the only way this is fair is if Agumon isn't allowed to Digivolve...
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TBF, they REALLY hyped up Leon to be the best of the best...
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I can’t imagine rookie stages having any good scaling tbh. Actually, going by the vsbw profile, agumon would get blasted pretty easily here
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... cool, he could be strongest pokemon trainer in the multiverse and I wouldn't really care, Ash fighting some character who he interacted with when he was still a novice who also grown would be still way better.
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Ash Ketchum
Tai and Agumon
Ash is higher than I expected by this wiki's standards, but yeah, he probably loses.
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Well is it not unanimously agreed Yugi Muto hax stomps?
The real point is that Lucy Heartfilia gets stomped.
We shall see how the team treat the "step down" of Ash. A good treatment can actually leave him as a great legacy.
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******* THANK YOU
The entire point of the Cell Saga was Gohan was not his father. He fought when he needed to, that's it.
Goku allows for a far more natural progression into each arc, as he has drive that Gohan lacks. Toriyama was 100% right to keep Gohan a reactive character. It's surprising how many people, Totally Not Mark included, miss the point of the arc they so heavily praise.
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Don't get me wrong, the Cell saga is peak shounen, let's not make two ways about it, but seriously, how do you miss the entire point of that arc?
Dragon Ball has some of the most effective and easy to understand storytelling in shounen, one of the reasons it so good, so how does that go over people's heads?
Dragon Ball has some of the most effective and easy to understand storytelling in shounen, one of the reasons it so good, so how does that go over people's heads?
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Yep, exactly. The boy only fights because he had to. No one asked him if he wants to fight the Saiyans or Frieza or even Cell . He had other people make that choice for him. It makes sense that Gohan doesn't like fighting after seeing so many of his friends die ( temporarily at least) and facing many end of world situations.
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