Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[RiloKileyFan]

To be fair, a lot of Staff picks this season, booking wise, like Spongebob vs Aquaman, over Gumball and going with Homelander over Bardock has worked out for the most part. The only exception is Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver, which was a great episode, I see it praised well, but it didn't do well in views. So maybe the next time will also be received well

 

[Jasonsith]

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Yeah to be perfectly honest why was Deku Vs Gon even popular again? I kinda saw the appeal in the beginning but especially how much more powerful Deku was getting and there connections boiling down to “Green hair Shonen protagonists”. Hell I think most people in this thread don’t even like the MU because of how bad Gon dies. Asta from what I’ve seen is the most thematic match for Deku anyway

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Yeah to be perfectly honest why was Deku Vs Gon even popular again? I kinda saw the appeal in the beginning but especially how much more powerful Deku was getting and there connections boiling down to “Green hair Shonen protagonists”. Hell I think most people in this thread don’t even like the MU because of how bad Gon dies. Asta from what I’ve seen is the most thematic match for Deku anyway

Don’t forget they’re both have absent fathers and look up to people, that’s not much better still but yeah
I’m guessing it was back when it was more fair

 

[Spinoirr]

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Okay yeah that's the easiest 10/10 of my life
"NOW, I'LL TEAR OUT YOUR HEART"
"YOU WILL FIND NOTHING THERE"

The fact that I can take literally any shot in the fight, caption it with "this pic goes hard", and be right 100% of the time is insane to me. No other fight this season, even the best of the best, has managed to just be back to back shots of some of the coolest shit DB has ever done. Voice acting was on point for both, effects were godlike, and the death, while initially confusing, is cool as hell just from seeing Sauron bring Arthas to his knees like any good dark lord should. They both used a decent amount of stuff as well, enough to make it feel like everything that was important to them as characters was included. And most importantly, they both had moments of feeling legitimately threatening, though I think Sauron edges out in that category (only natural since he won).

One thing I didn't mention before though is that Sauron's flames and Arthas' ice storm mix together to make rain partway through. It's not there for very long before Sauron's embers take over, but it's still a super cool visual effect and bit of attention to detail, which I guess is the case for everything in the entire fight lol

I guess my only real complaint is that Arthas' snowball feels a little pathetic. Would've much preferred something like pillars of jagged ice jutting out from the ground towards Sauron, only melting after exploding and feeding into Sauron's wolf transformation (which, for the record, I am ******* ecstatic that they included).

oh yeah and next time is a thing, it'll probably be good ig

btw i was way off on drizzt light timing, he never actually dodged, but he DOES apparently dodge lightning at some point

 

[Loh67867]

Yeah to be perfectly honest why was Deku Vs Gon even popular again? I kinda saw the appeal in the beginning but especially how much more powerful Deku was getting and there connections boiling down to “Green hair Shonen protagonists”. Hell I think most people in this thread don’t even like the MU because of how bad Gon dies. Asta from what I’ve seen is the most thematic match for Deku anyway

Deku vs Gon's connections are actually pretty long iirc but not as long as Deku vs Asta's

 

[Tipper17]

Yeah to be perfectly honest why was Deku Vs Gon even popular again? I kinda saw the appeal in the beginning but especially how much more powerful Deku was getting and there connections boiling down to “Green hair Shonen protagonists”. Hell I think most people in this thread don’t even like the MU because of how bad Gon dies. Asta from what I’ve seen is the most thematic match for Deku anyway

Don’t forget they’re both have absent fathers and look up to people, that’s not much better still but yeah
I’m guessing it was back when it was more fair

OMM and the animation potential

That's it
Connections were never it's strong suit

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Are people mad because instead of Deku stomping Gon now he’s the one that gonna die?

 

[Chronicplane]

Are people mad because instead of Deku stomping Gon now he’s the one that gonna die?

Nah #DEKUCLUTCH

 

[Tipper17]

Asta vs Deku is mid as a MU

Not the worst not the best

I honestly feel Asta got cucked more than Deku frankly

Deku MU spread was over the place and meliodas was fairly suitng for Asta

Plus it be awesome to see Asta neg Meliodas shit In

 

[Shmooply]

Me watching weeb goons immediately start discussing Asta vs Deku after possibly the most thematic matchup ever conceived ends.

 

[Tipper17]

Are people mad because instead of Deku stomping Gon now he’s the one that gonna die?

Casuals don't know but for some yes lol

MHA went from possible 2-1 to straight 1-2 record lol

 

[Loh67867]

Are people mad because instead of Deku stomping Gon now he’s the one that gonna die?

I'm actually kinda happy ngl, **** Deku

 

[Soulgizmo]

I'll never understand what it was about sds that made normals so uncomfortable when we have series far more sus In anime. It's like just a mid show.
Heck didn't this show use to have kinda sus moments in it? Wtf

 

[Soulgizmo]

Meliodas vs Asta could've been the battle for most mid characters battling it out

 

[Quantu]

They'd deffo interact like this

 

[Spinoirr]

Idk if deku vs Asta is mid

I want a raw as hell battle between two main characters of series I like fight to the death

 

[Chronicplane]

Casuals don't know but for some yes lol

MHA went from possible 2-1 to straight 1-2 record lol

Gonna save this for when Deku comes in with the clutch.

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

 

[Soulgizmo]

Idk if deku vs Asta is mid

I want a raw as hell battle between two main characters of series I like fight to the death

In a show with deathbattles that have had gods fighting each other... going from 2 dark overlords to some teenagers from recent Shonen is kinda strange

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Gonna save this for when Deku comes in with the clutch.

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

People thought Sun Wukong would lose?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Gonna save this for when Deku comes in with the clutch.

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

Alright, cap on that last one

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Gonna save this for when Deku comes in with the clutch.

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

Bruh Asta is gonna win he objectively has better feats

 

[Spinoirr]

Should have been Mash Burnedead vs Asta

 

[Soulgizmo]

Maybe they'll downplay Asta so deku could win like sauron

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Pray for the Hunter X Hunter fans, they ain't doin' too well.

 

[Chronicplane]

Pray for the Hunter X Hunter fans, they ain't doin' too well.

I mean they would've just been bitching on how hopelessly outmatched Gon would be against Deku without downplaying, YOU JUST CAN'T WIN.

 

[Loh67867]

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

All of these fights were debatable though and there were still some wincons for the characters you mentioned, name one wincon for Deku

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

I mean they would've just been bitching on how hopelessly outmatched Gon would be against Deku without downplaying, YOU JUST CAN'T WIN.

True, but at least they would've been on the show at all...

 

[silentgodomega]

People thought Sun Wukong would lose?

Half of the G1 crew did.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Wait cable beats booster gold?

 

[NotoriouSoda]

All of these fights were debatable though and there were still some wincons for the characters you mentioned, name one wincon for Deku

The only win con for Deku is them wanking the shit for everything he had and downplaying the **** out of Asta

 

[Jiangshi1]

Gonna save this for when Deku comes in with the clutch.

Remember this seasons has had character W's that ended up going against the majority popular vote. Zatanna, Apocalypse, Archie Silver, Sun Wukong

Wukong? The only time I saw arguments against him was the G1 Blog when everyone else I saw thought he was going to sweep (4chan - albeit, there was plenty of fun debates and memes about it), Reddit, and here especially)

 

[Chronicplane]

All of these fights were debatable though and there were still some wincons for the characters you mentioned, name one wincon for Deku

debatable or not doesn't mean most people still voted for the one they popularly believed would win.

Similar/Superior AP?, Greater Speed with Gearshift, resists like halve of Asta's haxxess since quirks ≠ magic(DB themselves even argue this), boasts an overall better arsenal with his vast quirks and is just analytical in combat with a technical experience advantage with all the consensuses and there experiences of OFA apart of him.

 

[Spinoirr]

If Asta returns I want this to happen

 

[Chronicplane]

Anywhom there's really no point gauging at this point in time where DB's going to have Deku and Asta at there peaks, the AM episode is a few years old now with plenty of new feats, scaling, calcs, wits and abouts to determining there limits and correct me if I'm wrong but this is Black Clovers first debute on this show, so DB's dipping there toes in fresh water for that.

 

[Tipper17]

Weren't most of Black Clover best feats in terms of scailing happen last year? Meaning Asta most likely scaling to the good shit which would shit on whatever Deku gets at

 

[Undylan]

wonder how outdated their deku vs asta will be in hindsight when both MHA and BC eventually ends

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Ironic both manga's (MHA and BC) are in the "final acts", almost too convenient tbh.

wonder how outdated their deku vs asta will be in hindsight when both MHA and BC eventually ends

It won't be as bad as GvS2 where Goku does a multiverse level feat (using DB volume scaling standards) just weeks after GvS2 put him at 3-C iirc lol!

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Anyway

Spoiler: Review lords

My favourite DB this season, it took the classical fantasy premise of Fire Vs Ice and dark lords/kings to a whole nother level with the dialogue, ambience and POWER!

*I loved how no nonsense both TKL and Sauron were, they only spoke when needed and choose their words perfectly (the banter was surprisingly immersive, especially with the "heart" exchange).

*The balance between physical combat and magic was on point with the teleportation, soul manipulation, elemental effects, etc all organically transitioning between the clashing of weapons and environment damage.

*The atmosphere was just... ahhhhh soooo gooood! I've replayed TLKs ice storm getting displaced by Sauron's volcanic eruption multiple times already, it just looks so cool... or hot?, both I guess? Even the beginning of the fight with TLK chilling on his throne then Sauron pulls up cracking the ice under his boot immediately hooked me to the atmosphere, one of the best and most consistent 3D animations we've gotten on DB these couple years imo.

Overall even tho I know next to nothing about WoW and I'm only a casual LotR fan (with surface level knowledge of the lore), I can't help but give this episode a 10/10 (It was simply fantastic).

Also congrats to Sauron for joining Darkseid, as yet another villain who steal his opponent's chair after winning the DB (one of the most based things you can do)