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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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So basically all the stuff that gives Juggs potential haxx is just unusable because they were amps from external sources/other characters that he never really has otherwise?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
So cartoon network shows exist in the same multiverse with that scan eh?

I remember the grim adventures and kids next door had a crossover and billy mentions at the start the ppg, in credits i think mandy went to the ed, edd and eddy series too, heck in steven universe crossover with uncle grandpa, the green dino says there is a multiverse (implying CN shows are all in it)

Let alone the shorts having the CN shows live in the same city and interact with each other
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Back in the day there was alot of stuff that implied a share universe between Cartoon Network series like the aforementioned Billy and Mandy KND Crossover which involved both Edd Ed and Eddy in the begins of the episode while also having a buch of other characters get revealed to have been absorbed by the Delightful Reaper. There was also the Billy and Mandy episode during the invasion event which has two crossover themed endings.
Though in more recent year's stuff like Crossover Nexus, Super Secret Crisis War! or Villinous pushes more of a multiverse narrative. Like these character's all exist but in different universes.
I personally find kinda lame since I love shared universe crossover trash but atleast this can be use scaling.

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Tipper17 said:
At best when u get to Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut there's isn't much to argue for Juggs beyond him being near knux level of power and resist some of His Hax
Knuckles takes it where it matters the most

Doesn't help that Knux immortality be a bitch lol
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Immortality + abstract existence + higher dimensional existence + omnipresence is a legit nightmare combination LOL
 
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Tots_Real said:
Back in the day there was alot of stuff that implied a share universe between Cartoon Network series like the aforementioned Billy and Mandy KND Crossover which involved both Edd Ed and Eddy in the begins of the episode while also having a buch of other characters get revealed to have been absorbed by the Delightful Reaper. There was also the Billy and Mandy episode during the invasion event which has two crossover themed endings.
Though in more recent year's stuff like Crossover Nexus, Super Secret Crisis War! or Villinous pushes more of a multiverse narrative. Like these character's all exist but in different universes.
I personally find kinda lame since I love shared universe crossover trash but atleast this can be use scaling.

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Do all CN characters scale to eachother?
 
Soma_King said:
all of them get a bad rep via not being the "original" while also in the "all remakes are bad" era of film thought, but honestly all of them are pretty decent, imho

Texas Chainsaw Massacre, would be a solid 8/10 and while being a remake, it's actually more of an alternate timeline/reboot, as it's a completely different story for the most part outside of a couple little things, while upping the griminess and gore of the original.

Rob Zombie in general gets really shit on as a director but he also has an incredibly specific style of filming where every frame of every movie he does radiates with his love for grindhouse, 70's horror and comedy and the like, and his take on Halloween is no different, it's also by far the most closest to the original film, with a majority of the scenes being shot for shot albeit in a grittier fashion. It was trying to do something different with it's Michael Myers and I think it did it successfully, and the sequel while not for everyone, is a great arthouse film based around psychology and drenched in symbolism and metaphor, the duology isn't for everyone but objectively I'd give the first one a 6/10 and the second one a 7/10

Friday the 13th 2009 is a great rapid fire retelling of not only the first Friday the 13th film but actually Parts 1,2 AND 3, giving you a condensed and concise more grounded take on the story, with plenty of hardcore kills and even a decent few surprises, it also gave Jason one of the rawest redesigns ever, completely re-doing his "baghead" design into one of the scariest looking slashers (man do I wish they kept the new baghead design for a bit longer.) Over all I'd probably treat it as the best of the "big four" remakes and a great way of catching people up on Jason's backstory without having to watch the first 3 films, (though I still heavily recommend them) 8/10

Nightmare on Elm Street definitely was an interesting one, it tried to do a lot different and a lot the same and the results are mixed, the CGI definitely suffers from early 2000s CGI and they use it LIBERALLY in the film, and a lot of the creativity of Freddy's kills are reduced to gory slashings for better or worse. While Robery Englund controversially wasn't Freddy in it, I also don't necessarily think that's a bad thing (it's a remake for a reason people) but Freddy in the remake is almost an entirely different character in general, much more withdrawn personality wise and the rare quips have a more serious sinister tone to them. They also gave an interesting twist in the story of the teens trying to figure out if Freddy actually was innocent of his crimes in life, calling into question the vigilante/mob storyline of the original, but also more explicitly make Freddy a literal pedophile (in the original films he was just a child murderer, but they make it pretty clear in the remake he sexually assaulted the main characters as little children......yikes....) Overall this is the weakest in my mind of the remakes, not bad, but it felt like just a cheaper, edgier version of the original despite some really great performances, 6/10
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You are being a lot more generous with these movies than I would be.
 
Tots_Real said:
Back in the day there was alot of stuff that implied a share universe between Cartoon Network series like the aforementioned Billy and Mandy KND Crossover which involved both Edd Ed and Eddy in the begins of the episode while also having a buch of other characters get revealed to have been absorbed by the Delightful Reaper. There was also the Billy and Mandy episode during the invasion event which has two crossover themed endings.
Though in more recent year's stuff like Crossover Nexus, Super Secret Crisis War! or Villinous pushes more of a multiverse narrative. Like these character's all exist but in different universes.
I personally find kinda lame since I love shared universe crossover trash but atleast this can be use scaling.

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Holy shit, didnt knew billy and mandy show referenced so many of the other shows

Also eddy telling billy to call kids next door happened in the crossover of knd with them?
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
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Do all CN characters scale to eachother?
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Probably not, though there's probably an argument for a select characters. Like there's some pritty wierd scaling, like Justice Friends technically scale above the Powerpuff Girls do to this crossover despite there being an episode all about how the Girls are way stronger then them.
 
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Probably not, though there's probably an argument for a select characters. Like there's some pritty wierd scaling, like Justice Friends technically scale above the Powerpuff Girls do to this crossover despite there being an episode all about how the Girls are way stronger then them.
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Does KO scale to any of this with his crossover?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Dark Lords, Werewolfs, Vampires & Horror Slashers.

Are skeletons getting in next year or what else could fill the modern trend of horror slot?
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Luigi vs Pac-Man
Spawn vs Ghost Rider/Demi-Fiend
Raidou vs John
SMT in general, come to think of it
Spinal vs Cervantes
Demitri vs Slayer
Castlevania in general
Pennywise vs Freddy
Buffy vs Blade
Hellboy
Devilman
Etrigan
Cthulu
Maybe Doomsday vs SCP-682, depending on how they play it
Ash Williams

Just off the top of my head...

You could MAYBE argue Sinestro vs Terumi because of the whole "fear" thing, but eh.
 
Tots_Real said:
Nick's crossover stuff caps at like 2-C and requires prep to siphon off energy from multiple universes, the Dexter/Mojo stuff easily way higher and might unironically be Low 1-C.
Also do to the crossover you could probably scale Dexter to Ben, PPG or Jack and also created a jammer that can temporarily neutralize robots in a matter of seconds.
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Ok but:
1. I don't think at bare least DB, would use that for Low 1-C, especially if it's generic "outside of time and space" stuff which usually is not enough for dimensional tiering requirements.
2. Again the fight is more hax dependent rather than pure AP, and there's no trouble in giving to Jimmy some Dura neg guns (such as cheese ray)
3. Without crossovers Jimmy likely blitzes Dexter via his own space travel feats.
4. Jack caps at rela, PPG and Ben might be equal or faster to Jimmy space travel feats. But if we are using crossovers for Dexter we can do same with Jimmy to SpongeBob in speed who is well, needles to say, is faster than any cartoon network rep.
 
Tipper17 said:
It was meant to be him being afraid of drowning but we know they had to force a BS weakness given Jason was handling Freddy in the dream world
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I know its cuz of him drowing but like afraid of water, not like michael L from a rapper was better but that one knew karate or whatever, Jason was scared of just simple ass water which also gave freddy knowledge
 
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