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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Maverick_Zero_X said:
I ain’t reading Trunks’ word vomit P&A section so you’re gonna have to elaborate
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with the keysword he has passive resistance negating power null, layered time manip, layered sealing etc

trunks' keyword is pretty much the peak of time power, which means it can nullify weaker levels of time power use, which includes Causality Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, conceptual manip type 1 and info manip, and essentially everything that's in this mf blog

probably got some of this wrong but whatever
 
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So an argument for infinite/immeasurable speed Trunks was possible?, I can get why they decided to go this route in the episode especially due to video time crunches but man would it have been least nice to the Dragon Ball guys to put this in a black text box in the corner, even if Silver still scales higher through via dimensional tiering
 
greymerlion2 said:
No source, but they’ve done this before with official VAs for characters by giving them pseudonyms. Bryce has also done work on Death Battle before, so it’s not out of the question that they could have contacted him for this.
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I get that much

If Kirito's coming to the format... it would be a CRIME not to get Bryce to reprise his role.

...Looking at you, Sora, not that he doesn't make a bangin' Haley Joel Osment impression.
 
I'm predicting that we'll see debunk/rant/hate videos from Spongebobboy and possibly one from Seth? and some miscellanious user I'm probably forgetting. Make sure to prepare your poporn with lots of salt and vinegar for those lads
 
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Okay I've watched the Battle. Do not panic TrunksBros

•Mentioned Infinite Timelines PLUS the C.o.T outside, so likely Low Complex Multiversal Trunks
•>Septillions x FTL

I've seen people saying they had 2-B and Quintillions x FTL Trunks. Sure, immeasurable speed would have been nice.

•Mentioned Xeno Goku powering up effecting time itself as buck-wild, and basically implied anyone with AP less than DB characters can't use Time Manipulation on them (Archie is just too big though)
•The Keysword wasn't actually useless, they only stated even Super Silver could resist the powernull/sealing abilities "at least for a time"

They also say there are MANY versions of this matchup where Trunks wins, so not a whitewash at all even despite the cosmological difference.

I think Xeno Goku is nailed on Low Complex Multiversal and >Septillions x FTL for them (come on Death Battle, sort that speed out. Scale them to the sucking speed of Mechi's Chaos Ball if you don't believe in the Dark Dragon Balls smh).

Strange Visitor Superman vs Xeno Goku could actually be a viable thing god help us
 
I knew Silver would win when people kept posting that scan of Trunks using the keyblade nullify people's powers and then someone post the next few pages showing those same characters still being able to use other abilities and powers. Overhype of fans tank the quality of research. It becomes more about debunking things rather than looking at what the character can do objectively. Learned that the hard way with Sailor Galaxia research.
 
Quantu said:
T̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶i̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶a̶r̶d̶i̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶i̶n̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶X̶e̶n̶o̶ ̶G̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶"̶X̶e̶n̶o̶v̶e̶r̶s̶e̶ ̶G̶o̶k̶u̶"̶ ̶A̶H̶H̶H̶H̶

Okay I've watched the Battle. Do not panic TrunksBros

•Mentioned Infinite Timelines PLUS the C.o.T outside, so likely Low Complex Multiversal Trunks
•>Septillions x FTL

I've seen people saying they had 2-B and Quintillions x FTL Trunks. Sure, immeasurable speed would have been nice.

•Mentioned Xeno Goku powering up effecting time itself as buck-wild, and basically implied anyone with AP less than DB characters can't use Time Manipulation on them (Archie is just too big though)
•The Keysword wasn't actually useless, they only stated even Super Silver could resist the powernull/sealing abilities "at least for a time"

They also say there are MANY versions of this matchup where Trunks wins, so not a whitewash at all even despite the cosmological difference.

I think Xeno Goku is nailed on Low Complex Multiversal and >Septillions x FTL for them (come on Death Battle, sort that speed out. Scale them to the sucking speed of Mechi's Chaos Ball if you don't believe in the Dark Dragon Balls smh).

Strange Visitor Superman vs Xeno Goku could actually be a viable thing god help us
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Ben/Wiz is straight bullshitting in the episode when he says there're many versions where Trunks wins. How the **** does he win when his opponent is literally infinitely faster than him, because you didn't allow him infinite/immeasurable scaling of his own?
 
Quantu said:
Hey man, they also said that Saitama was one of the strongest combatants DB ever had. It could easily be to null the Dragon Ball tears. (All this could be solved with immeasurable Trunks ugh)
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Dude, I will bet you money, that all this will come across as to DB fans, is borderline condescending to their intelligence, as you'd literally have to be braindead to buy that statement from Wiz/Ben. That's only gonna get the episode clowned on even more by the folks that'll be debunking it, lol.
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
trunkcels seething over silverchads, you love to see it
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Between the Silver wank for Archie cosmology being comparable to DC, which would make him outerversal/omniversal(lol), and the downplay of Trunks and the Key Sword, they'll have plenty to be mad about.

As for your clear trolling, feel free to enjoy it now, but you better hope and pray that Sakuya is scaled higher than Hit in her potential MU with him in the future, because if not, if what Quantu took out of the latest MU was accurate, they could end up saying Hit outright resists all her time hax purely off the fact that he's stronger, as he wins. Karma striking back, essentially.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
Between the Silver wank for Archie cosmology being comparable to DC, which would make him outerversal/omniversal(lol), and the downplay of Trunks and the Key Sword, they'll have plenty to be mad about.

As for your clear trolling, feel free to enjoy it now, but you better hope and pray that Sakuya is scaled higher than Hit in her potential MU with him in the future, because if not, if what Quantu took out of the latest MU was accurate, they could end up saying Hit outright resists all her time hax purely off the fact that he's stronger, as he wins. Karma striking back, essentially.
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Thank you for proving my point lol

Honestly what DB does with Touhou is mostly irrelevant to me since I already know they won't massively **** up their stats. Not gonna even bother actually arguing this lol
 
Seriously tho, why did they HAVE to give Trunks a finite speed cap like that. If they had just made him immeasurable like the QnA blog said it would've been more forgiving. Not contesting it but I can sorta feel dragon ball fans being down over that.

I'm cool with Silver taking the W but it does feel like a disservice to Trunks and I'd bet it was only to keep abiding the video time limit crunches since they'd have to go on a longer tangent over why Silver would still be faster.

Mind you Septillions xFTL ain't really bad in the retrospect of the characters on Death Battle, but in comparison to incalculable it's kinda a yikes lol
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Thank you for proving my point lol

Honestly what DB does with Touhou is mostly irrelevant to me since I already know they won't massively **** up their stats. Not gonna even bother actually arguing this lol
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"Since I already know they won't massively **** up their stats." aren't you literally one of the guys pushing for complex-multi Touhou with immeasurable speed? Lol, you ain't fooling anybody. We all know in your heart of hearts you have chars like Sakuya way, way higher than the universal and finite speeds we know they'll be put at thus far. Compared to where you want them and believe them to be at, that's a literal infinite difference with what we know Db buys thus far.

Also, I can accept Silver being able to edge Trunks out, but I'll make this clear for anyone who still doesn't get it. The way they argued it left a very sour taste in my mouth.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
Between the Silver wank for Archie cosmology being comparable to DC, which would make him outerversal/omniversal(lol), and the downplay of Trunks and the Key Sword, they'll have plenty to be mad about.

As for your clear trolling, feel free to enjoy it now, but you better hope and pray that Sakuya is scaled higher than Hit in her potential MU with him in the future, because if not, if what Quantu took out of the latest MU was accurate, they could end up saying Hit outright resists all her time hax purely off the fact that he's stronger, as he wins. Karma striking back, essentially.
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Tbh I don't feel like they were downplaying(least not as bad as other episodes I can think of), it is well known by now that with DB they prefer being more conservative/safer when it comes to power scaling/multipliers/extrapolate the universe
 
Regardless of y'all opinions on Silver vs Trunks, I feel like this fight did satisfy something which was one of my issues with Wally vs Sonic: the destructive prowess of the characters.
Even if it wasn't exactly on the same level as what DB painted their power to be, it was pretty nice seeing them do things like telekinetically throwing parts of the moon, slicing buildings in half, moving to different timelines and CoT and all these other things really did make the fight more impactful and just makes me wonder why Wally v Sonic didn't get the same treatment
 
Chronicplane said:
Tbh I don't feel like they were downplaying(least not as bad as other episodes I can think of), it is well known by now that with DB they prefer being more conservative/safer when it comes to power scaling/multipliers/extrapolate the universe
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When said conservatism, as previously shown in Thor vs Vegeta, gets to the point where you fail basic math, and now here, where said numbers shouldn't even be a factor, it goes past the point of being safe, and into downplay territory. There was literally no reason to crunch DBH down like that, as they still could've argued Silver winning.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Regardless of y'all opinions on Silver vs Trunks, I feel like this fight did satisfy something which was one of my issues with Wally vs Sonic: the destructive prowess of the characters.
Even if it wasn't exactly on the same level as what DB painted their power to be, it was pretty nice seeing them do things like telekinetically throwing parts of the moon, slicing buildings in half, moving to different timelines and CoT and all these other things really did make the fight more impactful and just makes me wonder why Wally v Sonic didn't get the same treatment
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idk S7 fuckery,2020 fuckery take ur pick idk
 
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