Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Jasonsith]

I mean…given the theme is supposed to be “beats their DC match”,

• Jinx won already so sure
• Debatable if Raidou wins given DC’s cosmology is bigger than SMT but Constantine isn’t as high tier as Zatanna.
• Simon loses even without giving Kyle the Life Equation. Ion is more than enough.
• Also debatable. Ivy has herald level plants but is a massive glass cannon.
• Idk who he’d be fighting.
• Super Why is fighting and dying to Word Girl.
• I thiiiink Snake wins but he’s definitely slower.
• Terumi gets his shit pushed in by Sinestro for DB.
• Idk who Homura would be fighting for DC, but neither of her main MUs are DC people. It’s either Kurumi or I-No.

• Do we love how people want Kyle vs Simon just as a genuine matchup rather than one grew up of spite against DC? (That said, what are considered DC skyfathers? Let aside true DC overlord deities?)
• Yeah Ivy has "herald level plants" but is a massive glass cannon. Also, her plants have been stopped by Batman with grappling hook ("peak human" By DC) so also that. And in before poison resistance/self healing would be great counters.
• Handsome Jack vs Two-Face was a Community Death Battle before. And by scaling to the main cast of Borderlands... we know we have a male Harley Quinn vs male Jinx.
• Okay. No Riddler vs Super Why.
• Well yeah I-No, Sakuya and Kurumi are far more popular choices than "the true Flash" when it comes to fighting against Homura.
• So not any hax wall would save Terumi from Sinestro? Like He has an "Afton" of hax walls and resistances and that makes Ragna and Noel that buffed.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Somebody beat me to it, but they didn't even do a good job lol

 

[StekFence]

I loved Deadpool vs Deathstroke

 

[MishimaBloodline]

IIRC I think it was that he didn't really help Zatanna with that 1-A feat. Plus one of the researchers thinks he loses to his most popular matchup, Raidou.

Can we get a source on that Raidou thing?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Somebody beat me to it, but they didn't even do a good job lol

You could just check the storyboard if you want to see what Zatanna's spells are

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Finally watching the DB without doing something on the side, I realized they made the Zantana sprite look really cute in the battle

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Zatanna got some new fans, that's for sure

"I have no idea who she was before this episode, but I'm now in love with her"

 

[CBslayeR]

Zatanna got some new fans, that's for sure

"I have no idea who she was before this episode, but I'm now in love with her"

Too bad there's nothing animated for her besides DCAU appearances, the animated movies, and Young Justice (which becomes bad by time she gets a dedicated arc lol)

 

[Mariogoods]

I mean…given the theme is supposed to be “beats their DC match”,

• Debatable if Raidou wins given DC’s cosmology is bigger than SMT but Constantine isn’t as high tier as Zatanna.
• Simon loses even without giving Kyle the Life Equation. Ion is more than enough.
• Also debatable. Ivy has herald level plants but is a massive glass cannon.
• Idk who he’d be fighting.
• Super Why is fighting and dying to Word Girl.
• I thiiiink Snake wins but he’s definitely slower.
• Terumi gets his shit pushed in by Sinestro for DB.
• Idk who Homura would be fighting for DC, but neither of her main MUs are DC people. It’s either Kurumi or I-No.

Wait are you sure DC always wins?

They have said that they half-assed Kyle’s research after the blog came out

Yeah. DC's high tier never loses. That's DB. Promoting Blake twice and having close tie with WB means that DC characters would always win. Because DC character's opponent has mental issue like Wanda. Because DC character's opponent can be knocked down by far weaker like Archie Sonic.

 

[CBslayeR]

yeah if a MU is pretty split and it includes a DC character I'd bet on the DC character

 

[Tipper17]

New MU template

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Wait are you sure DC always wins?

Yeah. DC's high tier never loses. That's DB. Promoting Blake twice and having close tie with WB means that DC characters would always win. Because DC character's opponent has mental issue like Wanda. Because DC character's opponent can be knocked down by far weaker like Archie Sonic.

well that happens, and unless you want to make mu shitty, occupying OP characters for dc's character. the defeat of some really broken herald (without preparation or some power up season of your favorite hero) is far away, and only marvel will be the one to defeat him lol

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

Scarlet Witch Vs Zatanna has to be of one of the most boring fights in a while.

Even with all the super powered universal crap, all felt so... Uninspiring, we already have Thanos Vs Darkseid, Hulk Vs Broly, Chuck Norris vs Segata, Ben 10 Vs Hal Jordan, Reverse Flash Vs Goku Black, Raven Vs Twilight.

All these fights pull the same crap.

I mean, barring Thanos VS Darkseid and that other one of these selections, they were all pretty good to amazing.

 

[The_Smashor]

Terumi gets his shit pushed in by Sinestro for DB.

OK, I disagree. Sinestro has no real way to take down Terumi for good, and even if it's mostly out of character Terumi has hax that he'd eventually use that can take Sinestro down.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

that would work, except that terumi vs siniestro is so unpopular these days that I doubt the interest would come out, unless one gets something big enough to reel the other in.

 

[Mariogoods]

well that happens, and unless you want to make mu shitty, occupying OP characters for dc's character. the defeat of some really broken herald (without preparation or some power up season of your favorite hero) is far away, and only marvel will be the one to defeat him lol

Actually you should include FC. For example, you can make a Cirno to defeat Zatanna by giving Cirno better cosmology and ALL abilities of Touhou characters with the justification "I'm the strongest" and giving Cirno intelligence and experience advantage in similar manner to Zatanna.

By the way, I disagree with your verdict of some DC VS Non-Marvel matches especially the Raidou one unless DB Team riggers again.

 

[MishimaBloodline]

Actually you should include FC. For example, you can make a Cirno to defeat Zatanna by giving Cirno better cosmology and ALL abilities of Touhou characters with the justification "I'm the strongest" and giving Cirno intelligence and experience advantage in similar manner to Zatanna.

By the way, I disagree with your verdict of some DC VS Non-Marvel matches especially the Raidou one unless DB Team riggers again.

DB has rigged matches?

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I like how everybody went from agreeing that Simon wins against Kyle to now Kyle winning/it being contested. It seems after Harley died the gas for Simon VS Kyle went down a bit because DC streak has ended.

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

DB has rigged matches?

The only ones that could really be called rigged are Starscream VS Rainbow Dash, Yang VS Tifa, and MAYBEEEE Sasuke VS Hiei

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Actually you should include FC. For example, you can make a Cirno to defeat Zatanna by giving Cirno better cosmology and ALL abilities of Touhou characters with the justification "I'm the strongest" and giving Cirno intelligence and experience advantage in similar manner to Zatanna.

By the way, I disagree with your verdict of some DC VS Non-Marvel matches especially the Raidou one unless DB Team riggers again.

but that would be just wasting one character on another out of spite, even if Cirno W is a pleasant victory.

we all have some, it's the nature of vs and a debate in general

(especially if we are talking about a certain very forgettable episode of dc vs someone not from marvel)


if they didn't give batman the most optional team I doubt they will give him his tier 1 stuff-A Constantine... which will be a sad thing because one of DC's best characters dies, but hey the mu works pretty well.

 

[Tipper17]

I like how everybody went from agreeing that Simon wins against Kyle to now Kyle winning/it being contested. It seems after Harley died the gas for Simon VS Kyle went down a bit because DC streak has ended.

Possibly but could be reignited to best a DC powerhouse

The only ones that could really be called rigged are Starscream VS Rainbow Dash, Yang VS Tifa, and MAYBEEEE Sasuke VS Hiei

Now that fits the definition even if it wasn't intentional

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

anyway, i would recommend all of you to take a break from dc now that tanjiro vs jonathan is coming out, so i could... i don't know... talk about some anime mu lol

denji vs itadori is the best one for both of them.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I already toke a break from comics when Marvel can't decide on who birthed Thor

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

anyway, i would recommend all of you to take a break from dc now that tanjiro vs jonathan is coming out, so i could... i don't know... talk about some anime mu lol

denji vs itadori is the best one for both of them.

How strong is Sukuna? Not that Itadori needs him though.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

How strong is Sukuna? Not that Itadori needs him though.

no idea lol, I don't usually concentrate on attack power, even if I'm up to date with jujutsu, same with chainsaw.

I just saw the connections, the level of animations, and of course how the two would relate to each other, and I just said it's the only real mu of the two.

 

[Tipper17]

In the community Denji beats Itadori

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

In the community Denji beats Itadori

epic, now whether death battle thinks so is another thing, but a denji win is pretty cool.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

In the community Denji beats Itadori

Lol, what are there reasonings?

 

[The_Smashor]

In the community Denji beats Itadori

So until a lot more stuff happens in Chainsaw man, your in the community of basically being objectively wrong.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

epic, now whether death battle thinks so is another thing, but a denji win is pretty cool.

JJK is arguably one of the most popular new gen anime, and with Chainsaw man getting it's anime by the same studio as JJK, I don't see why not.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

JJK is arguably one of the most popular new gen anime, and with Chainsaw man getting it's anime by the same studio as JJK, I don't see why not.

oh right chainsaw man will get his anime, I'm ready to cry again.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

oh right chainsaw man will get his anime, I'm ready to cry again.

I'll cry with you

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

I'll cry with you

let's cry together brother

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I already toke a break from comics when Marvel can't decide on who birthed Thor

Stan Lee. Duh

 

[Mariogoods]

but that would be just wasting one character on another out of spite, even if Cirno W is a pleasant victory.

we all have some, it's the nature of vs and a debate in general

(especially if we are talking about a certain very forgettable episode of dc vs someone not from marvel)


if they didn't give batman the most optional team I doubt they will give him his tier 1 stuff-A Constantine... which will be a sad thing because one of DC's best characters dies, but hey the mu works pretty well.

Agree with the result or not, I feel that I need cool down and start to dig more obscure verses to take down DC characters since profiles in VS Battles Wiki still focus on 2000s and 2010s.

For Constantine, if DB Team accepts the cosmology in VS Battles Wiki, then Raidou would have no problem.

For other DC VS Non-Marvel, I think SCP-682 is a good choice to beat Doomsday... I think it is OK.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Agree with the result or not, I feel that I need cool down and start to dig more obscure verses to take down DC characters since profiles in VS Battles Wiki still focus on 2000s and 2010s.

For Constantine, if DB Team accepts the cosmology in VS Battles Wiki, then Raidou would have no problem.

For other DC VS Non-Marvel, I think SCP-682 is a good choice to beat Doomsday... I think it is OK.

uh in my case i would love to see scp 682 taking his victory with doomsday lol, although well, the fact that his only alternative is a marvel.. if he's better than the reptile appears...

like i said, it's not necessarily about cosmology, in the end constantine isn't much if you don't give him things too optional.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

people chill

finding obscure characters or any character to specifically defeat DC ones outta spite is not productive or a good idea.

anyways i hope we do a get a break from comic book characters for a bit

my guess is after Tanjojo:

Unteased (maybe another anime fight) early may

Cartoon fight(dexter vs jimmy or Bill vs Discord) mid may

Boba Fett vs Predator end of may Kenobi release date

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

The only ones that could really be called rigged are Starscream VS Rainbow Dash, Yang VS Tifa, and MAYBEEEE Sasuke VS Hiei

I mean I'm pretty sure they admitted it was rigged

 

[Jasonsith]

Wait are you sure DC always wins?

Yeah. DC's high tier never loses. That's DB. Promoting Blake twice and having close tie with WB means that DC characters would always win. Because DC character's opponent has mental issue like Wanda. Because DC character's opponent can be knocked down by far weaker like Archie Sonic.

For characters that can beat DC heralds or skyfathers or even deities, either their verses are too obscure to be introduced to the public, verse too close to fan fiction (or collective writing), or these characters themselves are being pulled towards other matchups and be pit against other non-DC characters. (Homura Akemi being pit against Kurumi Tokisaki, I-No and Sakuya Izayoi instead of Hunter Zolomon is an example.)

people chill

finding obscure characters or any character to specifically defeat DC ones outta spite is not productive or a good idea.

anyways i hope we do a get a break from comic book characters for a bit

my guess is after Tanjojo:

Unteased (maybe another anime fight) early may

Cartoon fight(dexter vs jimmy or Bill vs Discord) mid may

Boba Fett vs Predator end of may Kenobi release date

If they follow season eight model, we would have one unteased fight, next another teased 3D fight (maybe the Boba Fett one), then a sprite/hand drawn fight (Dexter vs Jimmy or Bill vs Discord), then another 2D fight (Tetsuo MU against Mewtwo or Magneto or Shinji Ikari) and then the 3D Thor vs Vegeta.

I wonder if they would dare to have a live action fight in season nine. Which matchups do you have in mind? Jason Voorhees vs Michael Myers? Damian Wayne vs Hitgirl? (I guess we leave Cobra Commander vs Red Skull as 2D sprite right?)

The only ones that could really be called rigged are Starscream VS Rainbow Dash, Yang VS Tifa, and MAYBEEEE Sasuke VS Hiei

I mean I'm pretty sure they admitted it was rigged

I am not sure if Starscream VS Rainbow Dash was rigged because MLP god tiers are one universe level IIRC which Starscream will be screaming just by looking at it.

But why are people not talking about Guts vs Nightmare... Like tier 8/7 vs tier 7/6 come on.

Chainsaw Man vs Jujutsu Kaisen

Denji vs Itadori and Satoru vs Makima are the top 2. Definitely need to see them coming to Death Battle.

Cirno

Which Cirno defeats which Jack Frost and which ice fairy gets decimated by the king snowman again?

 

[The_Smashor]

But why are people not talking about Guts vs Nightmare... Like tier 8/7 vs tier 7/6 come on.

Because Guts vs Nightmare was cool as hell lmao.

Also, they gave Metal explicit Archie Comics feats in Zero vs Metal Sonic, meaning it's tier 1 vs tier 4, making it technically the biggest incorrect stomp in the history of the show.