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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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- boba fett harley quinn (post-crisis) heracles/hercules (myth) homelander (dynamite entertainment) jinx (league of legends) jonathan joestar magneto (marvel comics) omni-man predator scarlet witch (marvel comics) sun wukong (journey to the west) tanjiro kamado tetsuo shima (manga) thor (marvel comics) vegeta (dragon ball super) zatanna (post-crisis)
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No he's doesn't the shit is vague and unusable
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Outer according to the episode.
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When combined with the deliberate as **** Big Bang in the movie however...
And these are the people who gave us Town level DIO.
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Yeah, under specific circumstances.
lmao
It's true, most of them aren't based, they're pretty cringe.
No scans?
No scans?
Her whole thing is energy manip.
Yes, Jean Grey when in a specific state where she is considered unstoppable by just about everyone, Magneto included, is higher than 3-C. Jean Grey in her day to day self is not.
How the **** is absolute zero not hax
"used to be"
No I wonder why people don't read a single comic book in their whole lives and base their opinions off movies + reading the opinions of people who have also never read a single comic book in their lives, and then defend those opinions like they're fact
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They've got the same hair
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Considering how different it was handle they likely won't my put it in like they did with Schrodinger for Alucard
Crowman123
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This season has started really strong. Hopefully they don't ake a dud like Blake vs Mikasa in this season (seriously, the action on that was on par with Boba Fett vs Samus episode, their very first episode, and the soundtrack was awful.)
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Schrodinger was excluded because it was incompatible with Alucard's more iconic powers, while Tetsuo's full power is fully compatible with his other abilities.
0ホルスファルコン将軍0
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Town Level DIO is forever based and Hellsing fans like Justin8 can seethe
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1. Not really for the most part?
2-5. There are scans. Look at any analysis blog and respect thread. Also #3 was a typo.
6. So? Doesn't change the fact that it derives from her power.
7. Pretty sure she's higher than 3-C like every herald but not opening that can of worms.
8. Okay I didn't;t recognize that, but still. That doesn't negate Bobby's feats as many involve his actual power.
Don't act like you know more about comics. And I guarantee you a lot of people do read comics. How else are they supposed to link stuff and most evidence for shit. And that last part was very hypocritical considering how insistent you were on your comic stats.
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Is it really tho?
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Town level DIO comes from using the highest of high-ends for the meteor feat in Part 6 to the point of being nearly unreasonable.
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Town level DIO is via his stand, is it not?
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Just watched last episode, definitely another great episode worth remember.
Easily 8/10, although i would really like to know the context behind the highest feats for both Scarlet Witch and Zatanna, just to know if they are as impressive as implied.
Easily 8/10, although i would really like to know the context behind the highest feats for both Scarlet Witch and Zatanna, just to know if they are as impressive as implied.
More like Large Town level with both Stand and himself.
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They said Dio’s durability scales to Star Platinum, so he himself is Town level going by the omega high-balled meteor thing
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I will act like I know more about comics than you, because I do know more about comics than you, because I actually read them, and I have made dozens of profiles for Marvel and DC alike, not based off respect threads but based off me reading every single issue of every run they have, which is several hundreds in many cases, John Constantine took me like 700-ish total. Meanwhile, you're making claims based off stuff that other people have gathered without any direct context for the actual characters' stories and general portrayal. I'm not saying I'm an expert of Marvel or DC and I'm not saying everything I say is correct, I'm just saying I actually have first-hand experience with the verse in question.
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It always kinda weirded me out, because wouldn’t it be considered non battle applicable due to it being when he lost control of his powers?
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Eh doubt it
The universe creation is far too vague in its nature and is more of a combination feat, requiring Akira to pull off in the manga
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Tbh Magneto scaling to heralds is whack, he should scale to the abstracts.
On a serious note I never really got why people tend to scale Magneto so high. Like, sure I think him being able to tango with heralds is fine but on the basis that he's has decently broken abilities and not that he can output as much power as they can. Honestly prefer it that way, I like the idea of a guy being able to handle peeps that are way beyond his weight class.
On a serious note I never really got why people tend to scale Magneto so high. Like, sure I think him being able to tango with heralds is fine but on the basis that he's has decently broken abilities and not that he can output as much power as they can. Honestly prefer it that way, I like the idea of a guy being able to handle peeps that are way beyond his weight class.
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It's vague in the manga, but in the movie he just blatantly creates a big bang on his own. And DB does use the anime for Manga characters as seen in DIOcard, where both characters got feats that would have been way lower going only on the manga.
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Yeah pretty much
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I know Speedy does, and he has more than enough showings of it.
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From what little I’ve read of Mags his forcefields have blocked hits from some heavy hitters so there’s that. I’d fully research Mags but for some reason X-Men comics are extremely uninteresting to me
As for Tetsuo, I can easily tell our Akira pages are outdated so I’m guessing his profile doesn’t really reflect what he can do very well. His P&A section doesn’t have a single scan :V
As for Tetsuo, I can easily tell our Akira pages are outdated so I’m guessing his profile doesn’t really reflect what he can do very well. His P&A section doesn’t have a single scan :V
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Oh get off your high horse. You act like people who make those threads literally don't read comics for research. Maybe I'd take you more seriously if you didn't make that much outlandish claims towards the characters powers.
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We do scale his forcefields to High 6-C, just not his AP. Which is kinda weird but to be fair Magneto's powers areweird.
They were actually updated fairly recently, I think the users were a little inexperienced though.
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Who's forehead is larger, Tetsuo or Tanjiro
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IMO I think that the our comic profiles are "safe" ends for the characters. In a conventional ruleset, it's totally unreasonable to make them any lower than they are. And that's the point. What we have are safe ends until we try to find how strong the characters truly are.
Shockingly, researching 85 to 90 years of comics made by dozens of people many of whom have stated multiple times to not give a **** about versus debating trying to find what's consistent takes a while.
Shockingly, researching 85 to 90 years of comics made by dozens of people many of whom have stated multiple times to not give a **** about versus debating trying to find what's consistent takes a while.
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I'm not saying people don't make research. Plenty do and plenty of people get their threads approved and added, and plenty more just don't interface with VSBW and their research is elsewhere, we're not the only battleboarding site out there. What I am saying is that you seemignly haven't, and while there's literally nothing wrong with that, objectively speaking, I do know Marvel Comics better than you do under a battleboarding standpoint. It's not an insult it's literally just true.
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Tetsuo due to him having a worse hairline
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Anyway, I'm getting kinda dickish here and ultimately it's not a debate at all, so I'm gonna step back and unfollow to not ruin people's fun, but I'm gonna repeat, I think most people, if they were to read a large enough slice of Marvel Comics without preconceived notions, would probably come to the conclusion that our profiles are not that downplayed, and may even fall a little bit on the other side of the spectrum.
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Betting on Tetsuo.
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Watched the new death battle. I liked both characters but I was rooting for Wanda since I made a bigass CRT for her VSBW page years ago.
Overall, banger fight, but I disagree with the conclusion and the analysis felt pretty biased to me ("Let's focus on one weakness and gloss over another!") but with characters this old and this bullshitty, it's hard to be fair.
This was a very well-animated fight, kudos to the death battle team. Great voice acting too. Can't wait to see what happens next.
As for the results and analysis, it's kind of hard to criticize since marvel and dc are just so massive that they can pretty much pick and choose the results of any fight. I think them claiming that Zatanna doesn't need to speak backwards while showing her using pantomines because she needed to speak backwards is ******* annoying, though. I know it's an inconsistency with the comics more than the actual show but DB shouldn't have glossed that over; she definitely doesn't just speak backwards/speak in general for the hell of it. Also, was there truly no way for Wanda to exploit her human-tier durability? That sounds like some bullshit to me, too.
They also pointed out how Doctor Strange and Emma Frost were able to counteract 'No More Mutants' to some level, which is great but like...they did almost nothing to that spell. It still wiped out 99.99% of mutants across the universe/multiverse/omniverse, and that was with the world's greatest sorcerer holding her back. Deleting 99% of a person is a K.O., if I remember correctly.
And for all the analysis, how the **** did she kill Scarlet Witch? Even in the analysis it said that SW could counter most of her powers. I know SW sanity is a major weakness but it still feels lame that it was essentially 'she got distracted ggs'.
Just in general this fight doesn't feel right to me, although I'm not good with really old dc stuff.
As for the results and analysis, it's kind of hard to criticize since marvel and dc are just so massive that they can pretty much pick and choose the results of any fight. I think them claiming that Zatanna doesn't need to speak backwards while showing her using pantomines because she needed to speak backwards is ******* annoying, though. I know it's an inconsistency with the comics more than the actual show but DB shouldn't have glossed that over; she definitely doesn't just speak backwards/speak in general for the hell of it. Also, was there truly no way for Wanda to exploit her human-tier durability? That sounds like some bullshit to me, too.
They also pointed out how Doctor Strange and Emma Frost were able to counteract 'No More Mutants' to some level, which is great but like...they did almost nothing to that spell. It still wiped out 99.99% of mutants across the universe/multiverse/omniverse, and that was with the world's greatest sorcerer holding her back. Deleting 99% of a person is a K.O., if I remember correctly.
And for all the analysis, how the **** did she kill Scarlet Witch? Even in the analysis it said that SW could counter most of her powers. I know SW sanity is a major weakness but it still feels lame that it was essentially 'she got distracted ggs'.
Just in general this fight doesn't feel right to me, although I'm not good with really old dc stuff.
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I think Mags can lose because Marvel getting Ls keeps happening and I could see them be weird by allowing weird end Tetsuo but not Al's Schrödinger.
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Okay fine whatever. Sorry if I got heated.
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I doubt Magneto will lose that one honestly
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No problem, happens, sorry from me too.
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Yeah, I wish Wanda got a hit or two more in the fight, I felt that Z pretty much was in control of the entire fight and no-sold everything Wanda did.
so Jonathan is only Hypersonic+? Wow. What speed will he be getting for Tanjojo (lol funny name)
so Jonathan is only Hypersonic+? Wow. What speed will he be getting for Tanjojo (lol funny name)
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