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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Good job on the thumbnail!

Also yeah, it depends on what stats you use for them generally. If you just use the base stats for each character, RED would stomp incredibly hard from pure stats, but could potentially get caught lacking by haxx. If you buy .EXE being uni and just use RED from the og creepypasta, then that's likely a one sided stomp as well for .EXE.

BUT if you use both of their highest interpretations with that card game/comic RED was featured in alongside .EXE's uni interpretation, its actually a very close fight iirc.
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Honestly if you ask me it would be red 55% vs exe 45% to get the win.

I think exe would have better range and technically better attack power because of his world creation, but mostly it's hax's so I can see red, winning through stats and speed, although it won't definitely kill exe, but exe's regen takes long enough for red to get the win.
 
Also to be fair, the SSJ multipliers mostly worked fine in DBZ. They probably didnt intend Goku & co to be more stronger than there are universe in DBS lol
 
TMaakkonen said:
Oh wait yea he did the manga Vegeta thing, flip flopped between SSG & SSB.

Man its been what, 5 years since Super anime was on air, thats a long time lol
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yeah lol not much to brag about
but overall with Hit

  • Beat u6 SSJB Vegeta
  • Matched u6 SSJB Goku and Matched SSJB kk x10 Goku
  • Matched Post FT arc SSJB Goku and even killed him briefly
  • Defeated Dyspo
  • Took Hits from a Suppressed Jiren and viewed him a threat at least at the time of the TOP
so yeah as far as real relevant feats go also he flew from u6 to u7 to kill goku so some random MFTL shit
 
Ben also said that he is very interested in Shedder vs. Ra's al Ghul. He says that this cast is a test field that if they will do it in the future.
Ben also said he thinks Herc VS Wukong is doing well, if there was any doubt
So yay, more weird and out there stuff in the future
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
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honestly, the only Mu of both, and the only creepypasta Mu that would work lol.
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Considering the only other creepypasta matchup I can think of is Slenderman vs Jeff the Killer (and I wouldn't be surprised if they both had better), you're probably right...

Although since we just had mythologies introduced to DB, I wonder if they're open to something like a creepypasta Death Battle. Especially given the recent resurgance.
 
Jimmy.robinson.5099 said:
Considering the only other creepypasta matchup I can think of is Slenderman vs Jeff the Killer (and I wouldn't be surprised if they both had better), you're probably right...

Although since we just had mythologies introduced to DB, I wonder if they're open to something like a creepypasta Death Battle. Especially given the recent resurgance.
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definitely both have much better options, jeff... the guy suffers too much from another murder just getting stomped on and doesn't have much to stand out.

slender is a problem because of the amount of inconsistent story and canon, and I don't think any official version stands out enough.

but, creepypasta with consistent enough story I can see it working.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Multipliers are ez, really. Super Saiyan is x50, SSJ2 is x2 to SSJ1, SSJ3 is x4 to SSJ2. Its seriously that simple, forms have power boosts and stronger forms add more power.

I guess SSG is weird, because technically its above SSJ1-3, but DB decided to start ignore SSJ1-3 boosts for SSG and beyond.

In anime it looked a bit better, but in manga Jiren flatout was holding back and insta oneshot Hit after he became serious. Jiren truly was a big wall in literal sense, you reaaaally shouldnt scale Hit to Jiren as even SSBKK20 Goku & SSBE Vegeta struggled with Jiren lol

Frost isnt that impressive, SSJ1 Vegeta beat him (unless absorbing SSG to base is counted) and Dyspo was mainly speed. Dyspo was below Golden Frieza and even SSG Goku handled him. Dyspo was speedster type. Frieza is a monster, Frost is beneath him.

And yeah, DBS is ****** in DB. There is a reason I joked about Goku Beerus clash, its because its true lol
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So essentially when it comes to scaling most super characters, just start with the Super Saiyan God boost and onwards? Completely ignore the SS and SSJ1-3 stats/multipliers since Dragon Ball itself has kind of ignored them, and DB pulled back on using them?

So if you start with SSG, it'd be baseline uni for the DB universe, and DB's Universe is 13x bigger than ours, making SSG a flat 13x uni. Super Saiyan Blue though, is a 50x boost to the baseline of 13, making SSG 650x uni? And then every level of Kaio Ken applied multiplies that power by the level of KK, so Kaio Ken x 10 would be 650 x 10 for 6500 x uni?

Hit likely doesn't scale to anything above this he's folded to, correct? So he'd be somewhere around or above 6,500x uni?

For the video, I'd probably still do a section for the potential highest scaling they could give Hit if they decide to go back in to SSG to SSJ1-3 multipliers, just to throw the millions of times uni multiplier out as a potential absolute highest he could receive.

Frost isn't notable then, okay, but Dyspo was a speedster he wasn't used to, but after he adapted to his fight style he won? I guess that's a good point for adapting to different fight styles quickly.

Also sorry about all the confusion when it comes to Dragon Ball stuff, I only recently started reading original DB so a lot of the newer characters from Super and such are beyond me. I only really kept tabs on the general stuff you need to know for Versus, such as where the Super stats cap out like quintillions speed and thousands of times uni lol.

Loh67867 said:
I've never played an SMT game but I have a friend who is a huge SMT nerd and he thinks Demi Fiend is the strongest one
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I hear the SMT5 protag challenges that notion a bit but Demi-Fiend is very up there in terms of protag strength considering the events of the True Demon Ending in Nocturne.
 
Joycap said:
Personally?

  1. Hercules vs Sun Wukong
  2. Harley Quinn vs Jinx
  3. Tanjiro vs Jonathan
  4. Thor vs Vegeta
  5. Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna
  6. Magneto vs Tetsuo
  7. Omni-Man vs Homelander
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1. Hercules vs Sun Wukong
2. Magneto vs Tetsuo
3. Thor vs Vegeta
4. Homelander vs Omni-Man
5. Harley Quinn vs Jinx
6. Tanjiro vs Jonathan
7. Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna

The top 3 are in a weird flux state of constantly swapping around. There's a pretty big drop in terms of how much I like the fights from 4-5, but I like 5 much more than I like 6-7 at all.
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
So over 900K in nearly 1 day is a success for them, gotta keep it in mind for reference at future episodes
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Audience: Thank you. (For bringing in the show)
Crew: You're welcome.
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Crew: Thank you. (For pushing it to 1m views)
Audience: You're welcome.

Why do I find this a reference.
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
I hear the SMT5 protag challenges that notion a bit but Demi-Fiend is very up there in terms of protag strength considering the events of the True Demon Ending in Nocturne.
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If I were to give some thoughts, it'd probably be between Megami Tensei 2 guy, Aleph, and Nanashi due to being the few that actually succeed at killing YHVH
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
Oh shit, we might get relativistic RWBY (Key word: Might)
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Jasonsith said:
Now you've made the first step to make Ruby Rose standing a chance against Maka Albarn.

Now, proceed on step 2 and beyond.
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At this moment some of the hardcore fans do not care how hard Maka Albarn stomps over Ruby Rose at this moment.



Meanwhile, will we see Galactus vs Unicron earlier or Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger?

Or just Kratos vs Dante? Or even Arceus vs Amaterasu or King Drasil or Zeedmillenniumon or whatever?

Oh speaking of Digimon...



We know that JJBA is a global success but One Piece is still more remembered than Digimon and some significant population still remember Klonoa.

Oh yeah new games are scheduled to be out so check if Death Battle can grab the deer and go for the antler.
 
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Loh67867 said:
Hey guys, for those familiar with SMT: who do you thjnk is the strongest protagonist in your own personal opinion? I'm just asking as an experiment
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I've never played an SMT game but I have a friend who is a huge SMT nerd and he thinks Demi Fiend is the strongest one
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JoshDoshMosh said:
If I were to give some thoughts, it'd probably be between Megami Tensei 2 guy, Aleph, and Nanashi due to being the few that actually succeed at killing YHVH
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What about those who challenged Stephen?
 
So having reached 100 hours in Warframe... I think Lotus vs Junko (Touhou) might be a decent crack MU?

(Massive Warframe spoilers, obviously) Both's backstories involve the loss of children (Junko's son was murdered and Lotus lost the ability to bear children), which ultimately led them to gain a new purpose and name (Lotus changed her name from Natah, and is now dedicated to protecting the Tenno, while Junko purified herself of her name and seeks revenge against Chang'e), and both were responsible for catastrophic events involving the moon (Lotus teleported the moon to the Void, and Junko almost completely purified it), and both the stories they're involved in involve a third party protecting the moon in some fashion (from the Tenno and protagonists of LoLK, respectively). Not a lot to go on, but still, this is only from someone who completed The Second Dream like two hours ago, so there's probably more I missed.
 
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i really like this thumbnail, hope they go with this

HerKong at 1.05m....stronger opening than Thorgeta and a handful of S8 episodes(including MadAizen and BlackReverse and DioCard), tho weaker than Tanjojo, SaitPopeye, and even MagTets....though it's all about the coming days and weeks.

We should check up on the views by the 1 week mark.

I'm going to take a break from DB and VS and catch up on my watchlist, the next fight is too straight forward.

Cheers
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
So essentially when it comes to scaling most super characters, just start with the Super Saiyan God boost and onwards? Completely ignore the SS and SSJ1-3 stats/multipliers since Dragon Ball itself has kind of ignored them, and DB pulled back on using them?

So if you start with SSG, it'd be baseline uni for the DB universe, and DB's Universe is 13x bigger than ours, making SSG a flat 13x uni. Super Saiyan Blue though, is a 50x boost to the baseline of 13, making SSG 650x uni? And then every level of Kaio Ken applied multiplies that power by the level of KK, so Kaio Ken x 10 would be 650 x 10 for 6500 x uni?

Hit likely doesn't scale to anything above this he's folded to, correct? So he'd be somewhere around or above 6,500x uni?

For the video, I'd probably still do a section for the potential highest scaling they could give Hit if they decide to go back in to SSG to SSJ1-3 multipliers, just to throw the millions of times uni multiplier out as a potential absolute highest he could receive.

Frost isn't notable then, okay, but Dyspo was a speedster he wasn't used to, but after he adapted to his fight style he won? I guess that's a good point for adapting to different fight styles quickly.

Also sorry about all the confusion when it comes to Dragon Ball stuff, I only recently started reading original DB so a lot of the newer characters from Super and such are beyond me. I only really kept tabs on the general stuff you need to know for Versus, such as where the Super stats cap out like quintillions speed and thousands of times uni lol.
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Yeah, it goes like that. If you want to use the old DB method, then add x50x2x4 from SSJ3 to 6500 that Hit has. Otherwise its the same problem, this is all a massive lowball but we cant actually calc how strong characters actually are using multiplier methods.
 
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