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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Wow, watching the Nemesis video, I didn't realize Ultra Ego is actually ******* really bad some how, it's first appearance has him lose, and his second appearance has him lose, it really is Vegeta's curse to job isn't it?

you'd think with a form that lets you boost your power vs the damage you take would be amazing for a character like him, but it somehow still doesn't balance the fights he's in, IN CANON
 
Soma_King said:
Wow, watching the Nemesis video, I didn't realize Ultra Ego is actually ******* really bad some how, it's first appearance has him lose, and his second appearance has him lose, it really is Vegeta's curse to job isn't it?
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Giving Vegeta Ultra Ego unironically gives him 0 wincon, Manga scaling doesn't have infinite zamasu scaling so you can't even argue that he might have AP
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
...What?
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Jasonsith said:
Game mechanics brain says Sly Cooper wins.
Everyone else (include game lore brain) says Rouge wins so hard it is not funny.
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Nah even with lore Sly wins just by jumping and pressing the circle button, he beats literally anyone with that technique

Tipper17 said:
I'm convinced nobody knows how to scale shit these days
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Yeah nobody can really scale for jack shit anymore, except for Chris
 
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Anyways, have a Gunvolt matchup.

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Gunvolt vs Raiden
(Azure Striker Gunvolt vs Metal Gear Rising)
"ライトニング"​
  • Both characters were orphans taken in by foster fathers who were also the leaders of a group (Asimov being the leader of QUILL and Solidus being the president of the United States), said fathers being an attempt by an organization to recreate somebody else (Asimov being an attempt by Sumeragi to create another Azure Striker like the First Adept and Solidus being a clone of Big Boss made by The Patriots)​
  • Both were child soldiers (Gunvolt joining QUILL at just 9 and Raiden's time in the Small Boy Unit of the Army of the Devil needing little elaboration)​
  • Ironically, like their "Fathers", they were part of a project by the very same organization to try and recreate somebody (Gunvolt being part of the same program that gave Asimov his powers, and Raiden being part of a VR training program to make a memetic clone of Solid Snake. Raiden was also later turned into a cyborg by the Patriots)​
  • Both ultimately killed their foster fathers, albeit in very different circumstances.​
  • At some point they would save a someone they initially believed to be a mindless A.I. but, in reality, was a fully sentient being (Joule and Blade Wolf)​
  • They fight against corporate groups (Sumeragi and Desperado), namely a small handful in the companies (The Sumeragi Swordsmen and The Winds of Destruction) working for a man willing to do anything for their ambition (Nova and Senator Armstrong).​
  • Both can manipulate electricity, and their names/codenames reference electricity as well (Gunvolt and Raiden, obviously)​
 
Soma_King said:
Wow, watching the Nemesis video, I didn't realize Ultra Ego is actually ******* really bad some how, it's first appearance has him lose, and his second appearance has him lose, it really is Vegeta's curse to job isn't it?

you'd think with a form that lets you boost your power vs the damage you take would be amazing for a character like him, but it somehow still doesn't balance the fights he's in, IN CANON
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Vegeta is the kinda character of extreme highs and lows yet will never get the W on the main saga villain, it's kinda sad tbh yet I doubt that predictable formula will ever change.

Also if Dragon-ball has taught me anything, is to not be a sibling or else you'll likely die, be forgotten and/or be doomed to redundancy (E.g Raditz, Tarble, Tights, etc).

Now that I think about it's pretty rare for the sibling of a MC within a shonen not to die, be a villain and/or otherwise be in "indisposed".

It's a conspiracy to promote one child families.
 
CBslayeR said:
Giving Vegeta Ultra Ego unironically gives him 0 wincon, Manga scaling doesn't have infinite zamasu scaling so you can't even argue that he might have AP
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If anything, Ultra Ego is a noticeable detriment. Yeah, the form that benefits Vegeta if he stands there and tanks it. Then Thor shoots the Godblast.
 
from a guy
The Previews weren't shown on the Rooster Teeth Schedule yesterday and currently they are not out today.


I am getting a little curious about this.
 
The_real_cal_howard said:
Bruh Sol is multi+ lol. Dude gives even Archie a run for his money (though he still decidedly loses that)
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Very likely it is for Adam's Seed. When even we are smart to include this caveat.

Dust_Collector said:
Game mechanics brain says Sly Cooper wins.
Everyone else (include game lore brain) says Rouge wins so hard it is not funny.
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Nah even with lore Sly wins just by jumping and pressing the circle button, he beats literally anyone with that technique
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Sonic fans will explain how characters in Sly Cooper verse do not even hold a candle for Sonic characters. And I mean, a downplayed one like Metal Sonic vs Zero.

Tipper17 said:
Azreal is Moon Knight most popular other than Bats but Azreal more likely
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Very likely I would say Batman for the 5th time.
Moon Knight vs Azrael is better in thematic connections though. (And calm the haters for "too many returners". Although Batman vs Inspector Gadget is totally welcome.)

CBslayeR said:
Speaking of Jojo mus, please for the love of god avoid doing Gioker until you've done the other big Jojo mus (Kars vs Meruem, Kira vs Adachi), if Giorno loses the shit storm will cause DB to lose their entire Jojo fanbase basically.
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I agree. Especially when I see they are not ready to explain outerversal SMT and by extent outerversal Persona.

However, I would say they would need to introduce Aigis vs Noel Vermilion before introducing Giorno vs P5 Joker.

However, considering how Stone Ocean ended, do not be surprised JJBA fans are more civilised than we thought. Especially when there are at least two more characters who qualify as the strongest main canon JJBA characters and some more counting other media like novel and video games.
 
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