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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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The_Smashor said:
Omniversal" is still a ******* stupid term.
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No worse than Outerversal and Hyperversal level
We're just making up terms to flex on other verse cosmology
Derpmaster9000 said:
Omniverse is a term that has been used plenty of times in comics. That's where 'omniversal' comes from. It means you can destroy an omniverse, or something around that level. Omniverse being the entirety of Marvel/DC cosmology.
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That too
EJthe24th said:
Because of Kuro fanning the flames?
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Yes
TMaakkonen said:
MvS2 is the worst S5-S9 ep, but maybe not the worst. Its probably
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While I don't care for it can't say it's the worst the animation fine and Morseso decent ignoring some dumb shit in it research wise n such

S7 had BatGwen
 
The_Smashor said:
Tell me what their anti-feats are, Cal. Tell me.
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Newendigo said:
And the usage of Planet Waves "meteors" calculation that don't have Tier 7 energy if you actually pay attention to their damage output.
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It got tier 7 cuz they assumed they are as big as Jolyne head and moved in 1 second too
Newendigo said:
And the usage of the Cloud spliting beams of Dio that is not canon to the manga.
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Not the 1st time they used anime only stuff, also it was only for the laser, not stats
Newendigo said:
And not letting the usage of Shrodinger for Alucard due to "character and world reasons" even when he literally has it at the end.
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You realize that in story it says he cant have schrodinger and his normal powers, its also stated, so dont know why you complain when thats an in universe rule for alucard series
 
Thebrawlbro said:
Whenever people ask about the worst death battle, I generally have to believe people are excluding Bieber vs Black because it’s either so obviously the worst no point mentioning it, or they blocked its existence out of their mind. Because if that is not the actual worst episode for just being plain out cyber bullying, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Its too easy to mention that plus it was a different n shit
Wouldn't even look to it as a legit episode
 
The_Smashor said:
Woah, we do not disrespect Thunder Shroud in this household. That shit slaps.

Nice straw man.

Nobody cares that they aren't destroying planets left and right. But when Superman explicitly not holding back can't even make a dent on the earth and then one shots someone with Darkseid's powers in the same issue, shit's bullshit.
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Those two sentences literally contradict each other. “I don’t care that he’s not destroying a planet.” Next sentence: “It’s bullshit that he didn’t destroy the planet.”
The_Smashor said:
Tell me what their anti-feats are, Cal. Tell me.
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Terumi’s blatant one. Someone stronger than him, Hades Izanami, outright states that it’d take all her power to do something that’s small planet. And I’m not referring to AoE fallacy. She outright uses the set amount of joules. We justify it by saying “well the tier 1 stuff is hax” but it very much isn’t. There’s also the many many times ahem, “passive” PI just doesn’t do the things it’s said to. Or the infinite speed when they don’t even go interplanetary. Heck they rarely react to light.
Raidou is constantly put in danger with basic rpg stuff like high falls and gunshots and the like. Obviously stupid but you’d be lying if you said that you wouldn’t say Constantine would be a glass cannon for the same reasons. Heck, our profiles have Zatanna at human level durability wise for those exact reasons.
Seiya’s funny enough pretty consistent when it comes to speed. And yet going all out and burning his cosmos to the max many times, what’s the best physical feat he’s done? It would be making that crater in the first chapter.
I could go on too. “Dragon Ball Multipliers are totally legit, you guys!” Ignoring the fact that if taken at face value, the increases mean that someone on the wrong end of a multiplier would be ohko’d in the best of circumstances.
 
The_real_cal_howard said:
This is true. It just pisses me off when comics get singled out. Which like around half the people who comment here do.
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Comics are way too overused. Ofc we talk about them. We potentially 2-3 comic fights in 2 months right after 2 comic fights.

But after Hulk & Venom in S7 I personally am way more skeptical towards them. Not that others probably wouldn't deserve it.
 
I’m pretty sure we’ve been arguing back and forth about Capeshit for a good while now. topic change?

Name one good thing about a bad episode
  • Yang vs Tifa - The fight choreography is good
  • Shadow vs Mewtwo - …
  • GL vs B10 - Has the best OST of any episode and animation is really good (Not really a bad episode to me but half of the DB community disagrees so I included it)
  • SvM2 - It’s well animated, even if it’s an animation of flanderized caricatures of Sonic & Mario fighting
  • GvS2 - The animation is good and, while massively disrespectful to Goku, the scene where Superman strolls through a Kamehameha is kinda cool.
  • Toph vs Gaara - Toph’s characterization was done pretty well.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
SMT has pretty egregious Anti-Feats involving nukes that Reddit and 4chan meme about a lot.
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Persona 5 had the gang worry that Ruiji or whatever the blonde dudes name is died to some Normal ass explosion
Consistency is a bitch
The_real_cal_howard said:
This is true. It just pisses me off when comics get singled out. Which like around half the people who comment here do.
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Comics are easier to call out due to numerous out of context panels and and shit load of writer shaving different views on a Characters Power levels

But when you look at several series you can find alot of holes on them being X,Y or Z powerful
 
The_real_cal_howard said:
this is very much VSBW bias speaking. This is the same site that calls pretty much everything beyond the status quo for a character an outlier. And yes, the fact that you’d take a character outright throwing a bowling ball at say, a third of the speed of light and it not leveling a town as “not a feat” is a bad thing.
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Because that is the definition of an outlier Cal.
Because science doesn't work that way Cal.
Like, have you ever heard of the principal rule of the Scientic Method? Do you know how an Outlier is used in a context outsite of Vs Debates?
Of course. I know both, the most beloved and the reviled ones. Both for writers and stories. For every “Death of Gwen Stacy” there’s a “One More Day.” For every “The Human Race” there’s a “Heroes In Crisis.” For every Donny Cates there’s a Dan Didio.
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What
No Mark Waid's "Kingdome Come"?
No Grant Morrison "All Star Superman", "Doom Patrol" and "Animal Man"?
No Frank Miller's "Daredevil: Born Again" and "Batman. Dark Knight Returns"?
No Neil Gaiman's "Sandman", "Swamp-Thing", and "Watchmen".
Wtf is Death of Gwen Stacy, that is not a comic, it's an important event, and Heroes in Crisis Subpar compared to Dark Knights: Metal, and Metal is not even revered as one of the greatest series compared to the above.
Cal, I can tell that, you just like posing, lol.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Comics are way too overused. Ofc we talk about them. We potentially 2-3 comic fights in 2 months right after 2 comic fights.

But after Hulk & Venom in S7 I personally am way more skeptical towards them. Not that others probably wouldn't deserve it.
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Western animation is underresepented. I would love to see Bill Cipher vs Dormammu. Or the dragon from My Little Pony.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
I’m pretty sure we’ve been arguing back and forth about Capeshit for a good while now. topic change?

Name one good thing about a bad episode
  • Yang vs Tifa - The fight choreography is good
  • Shadow vs Mewtwo - …
  • GL vs B10 - Has the best OST of any episode and animation is really good (Not really a bad episode to me but half of the DB community disagrees so I included it)
  • SvM2 - It’s well animated, even if it’s an animation of flanderized caricatures of Sonic & Mario fighting
  • GvS2 - The animation is good and, while massively disrespectful to Goku, the scene where Superman strolls through a Kamehameha is kinda cool.
  • Toph vs Gaara - Toph’s characterization was done pretty well.
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Shadow vs Mewtwo was really bottom-tier. Very short and boring fight.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
I’m pretty sure we’ve been arguing back and forth about Capeshit for a good while now. topic change?

Name one good thing about a bad episode
  • Yang vs Tifa - The fight choreography is good
  • Shadow vs Mewtwo - …
  • GL vs B10 - Has the best OST of any episode and animation is really good (Not really a bad episode to me but half of the DB community disagrees so I included it)
  • SvM2 - It’s well animated, even if it’s an animation of flanderized caricatures of Sonic & Mario fighting
  • GvS2 - The animation is good and, while massively disrespectful to Goku, the scene where Superman strolls through a Kamehameha is kinda cool.
  • Toph vs Gaara - Toph’s characterization was done pretty well.
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• Bane Vs Venom - The voice acting and characterisation was on point.

• Shao Khan Vs Akuma - The music was fitting with some quotable lines.

• Spider-Gwen Vs Batgirl - The research was pretty well put together.
 
Newendigo said:
Because that is the definition of an outlier Cal.
Because science doesn't work that way Cal.
Like, have you ever heard of the principal rule of the Scientic Method? Do you know how an Outlier is used in a context outsite of Vs Debates?

What
No Mark Waid's "Kingdome Come"?
No Grant Morrison "All Star Superman", "Doom Patrol" and "Animal Man"?
No Frank Miller's "Daredevil: Born Again" and "Batman. Dark Knight Returns"?
No Neil Gaiman's "Sandman", "Swamp-Thing", and "Watchmen".
Wtf is Death of Gwen Stacy, that is not a comic, it's an important event, and Heroes in Crisis Subpar compared to Dark Knights: Metal, and Metal is not even revered as one of the greatest series compared to the above.
Cal, I can tell that, you just like posing, lol.
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The Night Gwen Stacy Died - Wikipedia

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You’re wrong. I got it slightly wrong but if you were a comic reader you’d know what I meant.

Also clearly you didn’t get my point. I was naming a good and bad story. I outright think Heroes In Crisis is bad, and ruins Wally. And did you really think I was going to be here for hours just listing iconic comics? No shit I wasn’t going to name them all. And if I said one of those you would’ve said “why didn’t you list Alan Moore’s Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow” or smth like that to prove your point.
 
Tipper17 said:
Let's be more positive

List you're favorite Mu and why it's ur favorite?
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It's still Copen vs Archer at this point.

It's crazy close (Recent Gunvolt revisions have made it even more so), really thematic, can have a great dynamic with two normally hardass heroes that can sometimes crack a joke, not to mention some new stuff from iX2 could allow for a ton more creativity. Plus, it's thematic as hell.

I really hope they don't just feed Archer to Hakumen or something.
 
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