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Eff it, let’s do both. How DB stats in newer eps change eps and how I view em. I don’t know comics best, so expect weirdness.

Rogue vs WW

DB Stats: They had WW beat Thor lol

Me: Probably same reason. Rogue has trouble with Thor powered characters, right?

Thor vs Raiden

DB Stats: Its even bigger stomp now lmao

Me: Take a guess

Batman vs Spider-Man

DB Stats: Literally showed in Barb vs Gwen that Spidey out stats

Me: Yup

Goku vs Superman

DB Stats: Swan will make Supes win, but surprisingly I think for now Goku outstats?

Me: At the time, probably right. Unsure if GT is really consistent Uni or so, haven’t checked it.

Batman vs Captain America

DB Stats: I think Cap wins? Honestly Caps stats haven’t been used clearly.

Me: If the stats gap isn’t big enough, Bats can win. Dunno how big it is.

Deadpool vs Deathstroke

DB Stats: Honestly maybe DP? Esp. with wacky items.

Me: Technically DS can’t kill DP, but DP is so easy to dismember it leads to weirdest enigma. DS can’t truly easily kill DP, but DP can come back slow. I guess too slowly so point for Slade.

Iron Man vs Lex Luthor

DB Stats: For now Uni Lex lol ggs but Iron Man might be next.

Me: Yeah, I know personality should affect fights, but to guarantee that big gap? Or, well not sure where Lex is actually. Above Planet but like… I dunno really anymore.

Beast vs Goliath

DB Stats: Pretty sure Beast has tussled with Spidey right? Lightspeed would win but DB isnt most that mutant happy.

Me: No idea, current disinterest in comics makes me hope Goliath but prolly not.

Darth Vader vs Dr. Doom

DB Stats: “I’LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU WERE FIGHTING PALPATINE”

Me: Force might affect Doom (does Force count as TK?) but like, its Doo-oom

Goku vs Superman 2

DB Stats: Read GvS1

Me: At the time prolly right, but its bad and it was outdated in 2 months jfc lmao

Wolverine vs Raiden

DB Stats: Wolvies too fest

Me: Hope Raiden wins, but its prolly Wolvie

Green Arrow vs Hawkeye

DB Stats: I think stats match well?

Me: Uhh sure?

Flash vs Quicksilver:

DB Stats: Yes

Me: Yes

Joker vs Sweet Tooth

DB Stats: I think stat wise Joker somehow could pull a win?

Me: ST should prolly win. Jokermobile is never brought up good feats and even if ST loses on foot, Big mecha is Big mecha.

Hulk vs Doomsday

DB Stats: They haven’t memed DC that much yet so oddly Hulk prolly outstats

Me: DD wins seems logical on ability wise, but WTF are their stats. Technically Hulk prolly isn’t that OP so Doomsday.

Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie

DB Stats: So far DP would outstat but uhh

Me: If canon DP met a magic Pony who invited him to a party, would he join it? This might be inconclusive for two 4th wall breakers wanting to piss off.

Venom vs Bane

DB Stats: Yes

Me: Does Bane even have 1% chance of winning?

18 vs Marvel

DB Stats: Final form rules might make Carol win. Tho S6 stats are low enough that 18 in show now would beat it but oh well

Me: Carol can’t choose to turn to Binary so (hopefully) 18 wins seems likelier. Her big fight vs Vegeta she didn’t use Ki at all.

Shredder vs Silver Samurai

DB Stats: SS lol Spidey scaling

Me: I wish Shredder wins, but yeah, its prolly likelier SS cuts Shredder faster.

Thor vs WW

DB Stats: Weird one, WW blitzes but is AP stomps. That sword might still make her win.

Me: Wondie prolly

Terry vs Miguel

DB Stats: They buffed Miguel to Mach 2000+, bye Terry

Me: Terry prolly isn’t consistently on that rock lift level so Miguel.

BP vs Bats

DB Stats: BP prolly gets Spidey speeds gg

Me: I heard the claim that BP isn’t consistently that hard to kill, so I am curious. Normally BP.

Raven vs Twilight Sparkle

DB Stats: Kinda same still but Raven has easy potential.

Me: Bye pony

Strange vs Fate

DB Stats: Kinda same still

Me: Makes sense

Carnage vs Lucy

DB Stats: Carnage is guaranteed to have better new stats like speed…

Me: …But Lucy can also be faster. I dunno, Lucy I guess? Even if relativistic she has range. Also, suicide moves winning are ok now.

Nightwing vs DD

DB Stats: DD hangs with Spidey does he? Then him.

Me: Uhh I guess DD just to have a DC L lol I dunno

Ultron vs Sigma

DB Stats: Oof

Me: Does Sigma really have NOTHING?

Thanos vs Darkseid

DB Stats: They were power crept by Hulk lmao DS wins, does he scale to Wally?

Me: Even if Thanos figures shit out, his personality is likelier to mess up.

Aquaman vs Namor:

DB Stats: AM prolly gets better scaling

Me: Yes

BW vs WM

DB Stats: OW wouldn’t get buffed

Me: Yup

Marvel vs Shazam

DB Stats: Bye Carol

Me: Indeed

Ben 10 vs Green Lanterm

DB Stats: Time hasnt ruined this ep

Me: TIME HUH THANKS FOR THE

ok but for real I dunno if Hal is consistent enough but you can make arguments, I guess.

GR vs Lobo

DB Stats: Lobo might get buffed but still gets haxed.

Me: Heard GR high ends aren’t consistent, but dunno. Lobo seems cool enough.

DP vs Mask

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: Technically maybe that op DP items win but otherwise Mask.

Miles vs Static

DB Stats: Wait, couldn’t Miles blitz?

Me: Shrug

Canary vs Sindel

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: That decibel feat just wins

Genos vs WM

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: Genos should be better have way better CQC but he loses

Cable vs BG

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: If you say so

She-Ra vs WW

DB Stats: Why wasn’t WW Uni level via scaling lol

Me: Are comics canon to cartoon SheRa? That’s her origin canon no? I dunno

Wally vs Archie Sonic

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: This is actually bizarre realistically, but I suppose its ok at high ends.

WS vs RH

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: ‘nods’

Venom vs Crona

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: Thank god they did this now for comics L haha

Batgirl vs Spider-Gwen

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: zzz

Hulk vs Broly

DB Stats: Somehow Hulk is faster noe, but Broly still too stronk

Me: Based DBZ win streak

You can say Broly is weaker, but real Hulk is MUCH weaker. Revival time is still unknown from vaporization.

Lex vs Doom

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: “FOOTDIVE”

IF vs Po

DB Stats: Not outdated

Me: As long as lightspeed doesn’t mean IF punches every microsecond, Po should (hopefully) win.

So, for using newer stats, record would have been:

Marvel 22 wins 15 losses 1 tie

DC 18 wins 13 losses

Also, M vs DC record is 11-11, changed one is 13-9

DC gets nerfed and Marvel, if I understand lightspeed scaling right, actually wins. I think DB could give em that.

So, Marvel is done dirty feeding Street level characters away wrongly lol

Not counting my thoughts, honestly quite a lot of uncertainty.
To be honest goku will never beat surperman people just need to accept that.
 
Well with how high DB has put Dragon Ball characters lately, Goku might stand a change unless they use one of Superman's very high end feats
Superman is most likely gonna much faster and unlike Hulk against Broly has a large variety of powers he can use to overcome the AP advantage. I am curious though how many universes does 100 trillion light years equal since DB uses volume scaling?
 
Superman is most likely gonna much faster and unlike Hulk against Broly has a large variety of powers he can use to overcome the AP advantage. I am curious though how many universes does 100 trillion light years equal since DB uses volume scaling?
Volume = 4/3 * pi * radius^3

Non-nuclear air blast near total fatalities blast yield (in megatons TNT) = ((x/0.28)^3)/1000/2 with Y in megatons of TNT and x the radius in km.

With inverse square law of destroying the farthest point of a galaxy

Math it thanks



Sorry but do we take into account the Source Wall?
 
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Superman is most likely gonna much faster and unlike Hulk against Broly has a large variety of powers he can use to overcome the AP advantage. I am curious though how many universes does 100 trillion light years equal since DB uses volume scaling?
A universe with a diameter of 100 trillion light years would have a volume approximately 1.24 billion times greater than the observable universe, assuming I did this right.
 
What’s the controversy in using Volume scaling?
The "destroying everything in a universe" vs "destroying the universe as a space-time continuum" debate

Say:
Tai and Agumon lead the Digi-Destined against Apocalymon, basically the physical embodiment of the recycle bin, and save both the digital and real worlds from being deleted forever.
This is a feat involving "destroying two universes as 2 space-time continua" and is considered stronger than many DC heralds.

On the other hand, DC heralds mess up with their universe destroyers, and although this is only one universe, the universe size is much larger and therefore will be more impressive using universe volume scaling.
 
A universe with a diameter of 100 trillion light years would have a volume approximately 1.24 billion times greater than the observable universe, assuming I did this right.
Damn the AP difference might not be that different between Goku and Superman then. Or maybe it will be, not sure how they will handle the multiplier boost given by SSG, SSB, and Ultra Instinct. Based on comments about if they gave Hulk the 1 trillion light years that Marvel is said to be, Broly still AP stomps.
 
The "destroying everything in a universe" vs "destroying the universe as a space-time continuum" debate

Say:
Tai and Agumon lead the Digi-Destined against Apocalymon, basically the physical embodiment of the recycle bin, and save both the digital and real worlds from being deleted forever.
This is a feat involving "destroying two universes as 2 space-time continua" and is considered stronger than many DC heralds.

On the other hand, DC heralds mess up with their universe destroyers, and although this is only one universe, the universe size is much larger and therefore will be more impressive using universe volume scaling.
Does timeline destruction feats take account how big the universe is?, I just kinda assumed it wouldn’t matter
 
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