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Low 1-C Key
Currently, there is a Low 1-C Key for Amazo in DCAU. The reasoning for Low 1-C depends on mirrored room nexus of all realities which was stated be trascend space and time. However, there should be evidence for qualtative superiority in order to generalize any Tier 1 rating. FAQ says it's essential to prove the qualtitative superiority.
It is perfectly possible for a statement like transcending space and time to mean that a character is simply "untied" from the universe's spacetime, and is thus unaffected by alterations in the timeline and similar meddlings. It's not exactly uncommon for time travel (Or any action / process that affects something through different points in time) to be described as "transcending time and space." Transcend space and time can also refer to a spacetime continuum being different to a "regular" spacetime continuum (Say, a strange-looking reality that may hold a few different physical laws, for example) or slightly do be more complex than a regular universe, even significantly so, but not qualitatively superior. Something A being said to "transcend" something B in real life can refer to the former being superior to the latter in some qualities in a notable way, but still roughly compatible. It does not necessarily mean transcendence not in an immeasurable way that would be graphically indescribable, such as A's qualities being superior to B by infinite amounts. With this in mind, statements of realities or beings with transcendence over space & time/the universe/etc., on their own, are not assumed to refer to qualitatively superiority, unless of course further context may elaborate on and contextualize this.
So, it's quite evident it should be removed.
A.m.a.z.o. and A.m.a.z.o. II
It seems II doesn't have a profile yet, anyways, AMAZO breaking through II's armor is a huge outlier because II defeated I single handedly before in the previous issue, and the anti life entity was still alive. futhermore, he attacked II after he unleashed ALE to destroy creation, not before but profile says otherwise for some reason imo. so we shouldn't scale I to II's full potential. (Not to mention, II even struggled fighting against superheroes.) Mainly because ALE is reponsible for 2-A feat and it wasn't affected.
Anti Life Entity and Life Equation
I think, we need to make a profile for Anti Life Entity. It has a clear cut 2-A feat that it was abled to destroy all of creation through nexus (mirrored room) of all realities. Later Batman and Wonder Woman restored the multiverse with life equation. Idk what to do it as it's not a character.
TLDR: So, ALE's ratings varies from 3-A, Low 2-C to 2-A. (it consumed a universe before it was going to consume everything) and A.M..A.Z.O. II with ALE also should give the same rating. As I said above, Low 1-C key need to be removed since it lacks evidence for QS. two profiles need to be made if it seems necessarily. (for ALE and II)
Currently, there is a Low 1-C Key for Amazo in DCAU. The reasoning for Low 1-C depends on mirrored room nexus of all realities which was stated be trascend space and time. However, there should be evidence for qualtative superiority in order to generalize any Tier 1 rating. FAQ says it's essential to prove the qualtitative superiority.
Q: What tier is transcending space and time?
A: As said above, "transcending space and time" is a very vague statement by itself and can mean multiple things depending on the context in which it is made, as well as how this characteristic is portrayed in the first place. However, if it is specified that they "transcend space and time" in the sense that they exist on some higher level of reality that is qualitatively superior to a spacetime continuum in nature, then they should be put at Low 1-C, assuming the continuum in question is one comprised of four dimensions. The answer may vary depending on this factor.It is perfectly possible for a statement like transcending space and time to mean that a character is simply "untied" from the universe's spacetime, and is thus unaffected by alterations in the timeline and similar meddlings. It's not exactly uncommon for time travel (Or any action / process that affects something through different points in time) to be described as "transcending time and space." Transcend space and time can also refer to a spacetime continuum being different to a "regular" spacetime continuum (Say, a strange-looking reality that may hold a few different physical laws, for example) or slightly do be more complex than a regular universe, even significantly so, but not qualitatively superior. Something A being said to "transcend" something B in real life can refer to the former being superior to the latter in some qualities in a notable way, but still roughly compatible. It does not necessarily mean transcendence not in an immeasurable way that would be graphically indescribable, such as A's qualities being superior to B by infinite amounts. With this in mind, statements of realities or beings with transcendence over space & time/the universe/etc., on their own, are not assumed to refer to qualitatively superiority, unless of course further context may elaborate on and contextualize this.
So, it's quite evident it should be removed.
A.m.a.z.o. and A.m.a.z.o. II
It seems II doesn't have a profile yet, anyways, AMAZO breaking through II's armor is a huge outlier because II defeated I single handedly before in the previous issue, and the anti life entity was still alive. futhermore, he attacked II after he unleashed ALE to destroy creation, not before but profile says otherwise for some reason imo. so we shouldn't scale I to II's full potential. (Not to mention, II even struggled fighting against superheroes.) Mainly because ALE is reponsible for 2-A feat and it wasn't affected.
Anti Life Entity and Life Equation
I think, we need to make a profile for Anti Life Entity. It has a clear cut 2-A feat that it was abled to destroy all of creation through nexus (mirrored room) of all realities. Later Batman and Wonder Woman restored the multiverse with life equation. Idk what to do it as it's not a character.
TLDR: So, ALE's ratings varies from 3-A, Low 2-C to 2-A. (it consumed a universe before it was going to consume everything) and A.M..A.Z.O. II with ALE also should give the same rating. As I said above, Low 1-C key need to be removed since it lacks evidence for QS. two profiles need to be made if it seems necessarily. (for ALE and II)
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