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We can implement changes for Vertigo that three staff members agree on.
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DC/Vertigo Cosmology Redo(Part 1 of 2)
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Wait a bit. I'm pretty sure Ultima has something to say about Vertigo as well.
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I think his answers will not affect the proposed changes. Moreover, a lot of time has passed...
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Yeah, go ahead with the Vertigo changes. I'm occupied with real life stuff as of late and would rather focus on getting the rest of the 1-A/High 1-A/0 queue moving. I'll tackle DC with you all at a later point if needed.
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The 1-A changes for Vertigo have enough votes to be accepted, can you unlock the profiles listed here?
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Can J.M. DeMatteis cosmology be changed to 0/High1-A + now that it doesn't seem to be a problem?
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Probably doesn't have enough votes, and it was the Vertigo stuff he said doesn't have a problem. I might need to make a tally, but I think Qawsedf was the only staff member who approved everything.
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Pretty sure Ultima already agreed to Tier 0 and High 1-A+ for Divine Presence and Mahapralaya. He hasn't really changed his stance on that.
So that's two staff votes. Three, if you include Ant's vote a few posts down from the above one. If nothing else, Divine Presence and Mahapralaya tiers were accepted for DeMatteis Cosmology. Though, I have no problem waiting for more staff to confirm their stance.
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My bad, I misread. Yeah, Ultima already approved the High 1-A+ and Tier 0 stuff, it's just the High 1-A stuff that he rejected. Don't mind me, though someone needs to decide how the Divine Presence profile should be handled.
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The idea was to have an entirely new profile created specifically for the Divine Presence. At least that's what I suggested months ago. Since the cosmology is split, it would make sense. But I think they decided recently on just having an additional key on the Presence profile instead. So, I suppose the justifications, and such would be applied into that page.
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He didn't reject the High 1-A stuff. We already discussed this in private and he literally said “Yeah, I see Heaven being High 1-A.”
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Don't use what I said off-site here.
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Just to make sure, you'll be in touch for part.2 for those High 1-A/0 for Vertigo as well, correct? It being 1-A right now would be an easier transition, but, nevertheless, I'll need you to be on that as well.
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Well, I would advise you to be more attentive to the thread in the future. That way, there isn't a miscommunication, if we have nothing else to go off of.
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You can’t blame him when the College semester is starting for most people tbh
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You seem to forget that I like to tease Ultima, and I'm not at all being serious or pushy as it may seem.You can’t blame him when the College semester is starting for most people tbh
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Unless I'm missing something, characters with 1-A automatically qualify for Immeasurable Speed. We need to organize the profiles accordingly. I guess there shouldn't be a need for a separate thread for this.
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Somebody needs to write all of the exactly worded titles for the wiki pages that you need unlocked in a plain text format, so I can easily handle the task with a mass-unlocking program.
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Here:Somebody needs to write all of the exactly worded titles for the wiki pages that you need unlocked in a plain text format, so I can easily handle the task with a mass-unlocking program.
The Presence
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Gabriel Hornblower
Mother Night
Father Time
Death of the Endless
Destiny of the Endless
Dream of the Endless
Destruction of the Endless
Despair of the Endless
Desire of the Endless
Delirium of the Endless
Elaine Belloc
Mazikeen
Cestis
The Basanos
Glory of the First Circle
The City of Stars
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As far as I can see, there is no problem. It's now up to the freak called Goofy.I have handled it now, but you did not write Mother Night's page title in the correct manner, so you may have messed up with another one as well, in which case it is likely still locked.
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Up to me to?
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It’s locked to me, apparently.To revise the opened profile pages.
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This is perfectly normal since you own the OP.
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Which wiki pages are currently locked for you to edit? As I mentioned above, I am not certain if LazyMortician wrote down all of the titles correctly, which would mess up the unlocking process.
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Since I have some complications. I think someone else will have to handle this.Which wiki pages are currently locked for you to edit? As I mentioned above, I am not certain if LazyMortician wrote down all of the titles correctly, which would mess up the unlocking process.
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What needs to be done, I can do it
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I think the changes are fairly simple. The listed key profiles and their ratings based on what was proposed for the Vertigo section.Do you wish to give Pein instructions, Toddler?
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Should we leave the speed sections for later? Moreover, are we going to leave updating the AP justifications to the second part?
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We can fix the speed part. More so for the AP section just include exist in the same level of existence as realms that are more real than real implying qualitative superiority over the material Universe.
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Lucifer Morningstar
Tier: 1-A
Attack Potency: Outerverse Level ( He transcending The City of Stars, which is above real, and the Silver City, which is not part of the order of Creation and is far above it. He and his brothers are tools that build the Universe with the power God has given them. He is much more powerful than primordial concepts that define reality in all its forms, such as the Endless.)
For example, how about this example?
Tier: 1-A
Attack Potency: Outerverse Level ( He transcending The City of Stars, which is above real, and the Silver City, which is not part of the order of Creation and is far above it. He and his brothers are tools that build the Universe with the power God has given them. He is much more powerful than primordial concepts that define reality in all its forms, such as the Endless.)
For example, how about this example?
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Seems fine, though, the Silver City portion should be removed since Lucifer series retcon that notion, it’s part of the order of created things and was built by the Lilim workforce.
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It is obvious that it is still referred to as the design base of the Universe in the series. I guess the fact that it was built by Lilim doesn't change much. Because they gave them this authority and power.
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When will it start to be used? And does J.M. DeMatteis have to count points on new crt ? because it seems like the whole conversation is Vertigo?
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I wouldn’t say so. I mean it was literally “physically” built as a hosanna of silver and many things. Plus, Lilith could drag it down to the Universe and could be broken by literal rocks and stones.
The Angels, however, when they introduced themselves to Lilith mention how they were of “Heaven” prior to the creation of the Silver City. So I say that a non-corporeal Heaven should be distinct to just the Silver City. So the old view of Silver City could be replaced by Heaven. Hence why I said the City was apart of Heaven since it was whisked away there during the end of Lucifer #50.
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Vertigo changes can be applied as soon as we look through the old profile justification and implement the changes we need. As for DeMatteis, I’m waiting on Ultima approval of 1-A/1-A+ material plane and High 1-A spiritual planes.
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It was never said that it was from physical materials. The City is a sacrament. You know, such things remain metaphors and carry other meanings in such realms. On the other hand, the weapons Lilim used were strong enough to kill even Seraphs.
This may be possible because the existence of Heaven is mentioned even when the City is under construction. But it would also be complicated that way. So, in Mike's series, only the City being dropped might be a problem, but it was a miracle that this didn't happen anyway. This is one of the things Yahweh determined. And there are many reasons for this.
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