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Bringing Back Prime All Might Multiplier and All Might Upgrade?
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Well for one those two users haven't mastered OFA unlike All Might who held onto it for decades.
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The whole point about him absorbing those is that he has a limit on how much he can absorb, he doesn't absorb the punches and gets stronger, all might quite literally says this.
is absorption, not negation, so he must have a limit, no?
They never say "he gets stronger from the absorption, they just treat it as extra durability AFAIK
So yeah, disagree, he counted the punches that were absorbed and ignored too, only after he goes beyond 100% he starts actually moving nomu, prime all might is just stronger than weakened all might going beyond 100%
If there is any extra informatiok on what happens tothe impacts on his body, it could help
is absorption, not negation, so he must have a limit, no?
They never say "he gets stronger from the absorption, they just treat it as extra durability AFAIK
So yeah, disagree, he counted the punches that were absorbed and ignored too, only after he goes beyond 100% he starts actually moving nomu, prime all might is just stronger than weakened all might going beyond 100%
If there is any extra informatiok on what happens tothe impacts on his body, it could help
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Where can i buy this masterpiece?
This monkey has a tank that can be filled with bananas
This small monkey could put 300 bananas in the tank and not exceed its limit for holding bananas.
But this monkey put 5 and exceeded that limit.
Thats all might here. Im currently in class so my response r gonna be slow.
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His argument is negation. If below 100 its doing no damage. But thats not what’s happening. As stated, hes absorbing it. And since its not negating it that energy is being built up thats how it has a limit. His own reasoning is flawed. That same reasoning would mean all might wouldnt have been capable of overcoming it because he is still under that 100. Thats why it took more than one punch, he is underneath that 100. Yet he overcame it, which is impossible with his reasoning.
He absorbs it and all might exceeded his max absorption and prime am could do the same in 5 punches.
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I agree with this. I never and still don’t understand why we removed the multipliers when it makes sense, I’ve seen multiple pages say the exact same thing you said about the 60x multiplier and how it stacks. I say have this added and make god tiers LML, also I thought the two heroes storm feat was small country what happened to that lolName says it all.
I believe the All Might prime multiplier should be brought back.
Why was it ever removed/wasnt used?
The argument against it was that it was mostly a speed argument blah blah blah.
Now my reasoning for it coming back is based on Nomu’s quirk, shock absorption.
It pretty much absorbs All Might’s punches so he doesnt take any damage.
Now why is this important?
Because its absorbing the attacks, not negating.
So if he hits two times, nomu absorbs 2 of his attacks. So on so forth.
All Might confirmed that he attacked over 300 times meaning Nomu’s shock absorption at least absorb 300 punches. Given that this stacks it would have taken 300x a base plus ultra punch.
Then as All Might stated, it would have taken All Might 5 Punches from him in his prime to overcome to Shock Absorption. Meaning 5 punches from Prime Am=300+ plus ultra weakened All Might punches.
Now if thats accepted, normally All Might would just be 60x stronger in his prime, but I have a proposal.
All Might stated he was going beyond his max power and Plus Ultra.
In mha the body passively limits itself to 80% power and in certain situations it can go up to 100% of power.
This would mean that all might punches vs Nomu were 1.2x stronger than his normal 100% punches.
So 300x1.2=360 then divide by 5=72.
Prime All Might would be 72x stronger than a normal 100% All Might.
Applying this would make Prime All Might Large mountain level and Prime All for One LML as well via scaling if this is accepted.
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I calc the feat at multi continental but thats outside wiki stuff
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Wait you calced the heroes rising feat at multi continent, how tf is that possible? If you can pls link that calc to me and is it legit?
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Absorbs means to take in and hold, meaning the quirk takes that shock and holds it in. Since All Might states that its not negation, the force isnt just disappearing its stacking. All Might was saying there was a limit to how much it could hold. It took 300 punches to overcome that limit and clap Nomu. Meaning it absorbed 300x a normal plus ultra punch. Prime All Might could do the same in 5 punches.
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/114TGmKp2R-a1m2QMBzMYxwrp7_x3u7g48gdr37Mbtiw/edit
This is outside wiki stuff dont forget that
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Also i need to remove the speed part using all might multiplier bc well, its not a speed multiplier and the strength is higher
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That’s fine this page is pretty slow when it comes to certain shit so I’d take a calc that’s actually correct and is stated to be canon from the author which I can use as a feat in vsbattle over a page that feels the feat performed is a outlier simply becuz in the manga he hasn’t showcased such feat.
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If people still have contentions with this by the time i get home I’ll have to do an irl example bc this is ridiculous
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Not trying to derail the thread so you can take it to my dms on discord for any talk regarding the calc
Timmy Turner#4018
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Masterpieces aside, All-might flat out stated in this panel that Nemu's absorption has a limit, so he simply punched beyond of what he could Absorb. So idk, if it's a legitimate feat to prove that such a big multiplier is justifiable. I honestly disagree with the OP.
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I agree.
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We know this. That limit is how much he can absorb and all might exceeded that in 300 punches. This is literally the basis for my argument.
Masterpieces aside, All-might flat out stated in this panel that Nemu's absorption has a limit, so he simply punched beyond of what he could Absorb. So idk, if it's a legitimate feat to prove that such a big multiplier is justifiable. I honestly disagree with the OP.
Absorption means to take in, in this case hes taking in the strength of Am punches. All Might confirms he’s not negating that energy meaning its stacking up as it absorbs. Thats the limit, how much it can absorb. It can absorb 300 punches, that’s literally the point of this entire statement. It took All Might 300 punches to overcome his absorption while in his prime he could have done it in 5 punches alone. Thats why this scene was so emphasized in the manga and hyped up, they wanted us to see that massive difference in power
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Not sure if yall know what it means to absorb something
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Ah this takes me back...
To when Shigaraki was a goddamn nobody fodder villain
Now he's the best villain in Shonen Jump
To when Shigaraki was a goddamn nobody fodder villain
Now he's the best villain in Shonen Jump
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What?? Even back in his early days he was a badass and not some random fodder.
Like when he blitz deku and co.. I got this feat at massively hypersonic for reasons. Sometime this month im bringing over the methods
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LET'S THE WAR BEGIN!
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I think we've gotten off track here.
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Opinion on op?
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Hey stop derailling
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Spicy.
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I'm neutral because it's a weird way to get a multiplier
But I'm entirely against it
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If TimmyTurnero's multiplier proposal isn't accepted I'd still like for some more people to give me some thoughts about what i said about Prime AM Solo Scaling the Heroes Rising feat.
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Shoudl i ago ahead with new speed revisions or wait for this to finish?
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About what feat?
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Why are you against it
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