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Alright, so just like the Navel Laser, one of the most hotly debated MHA subjects needs to be put to bed officially.
All Might’s over 300 punches against the USJ Nomu.
This feat is quite infamous so I feel it needs no reintroduction, but I’m going to lay it down anyway.
The Feat
In order to save his students, Toshinori Yagi engages with the USJ Nomu, and finds that it’s special ability, alongside the baseline regeneration/physical stats that all of the perfected Nomu possess, is a Shock Absorption Quirk.
This Quirk operates on a set amount of damage: The Nomu can absorb any amount of blows until that set amount is reached.
This is shown several times with the Nomu being almost completely impervious to blunt force damage, even from All Might himself.
As counted here (even counting Deku’s 5% Smash), the Nomu withstands 5 hits before All Might’s punch rush begins. For these 5 hits, the Nomu is noticeably unmoved or even fazed, as the blows it takes are absorbed into its body.
When the actual rush and exchange of punches begins, All Might claims what we already know: thus Quirk is Absorption, not Negation. This means that the Nomu is accumulating the energy of these punches, and the more energy it takes, the closer he gets to breaking through. Knowing this, All Might decides to continue his attacks, constantly hitting the Nomu at, per Deku’s words, “over 100% of his power,” referring to All Mights “Plus Ultra” ability/Awakened Power.
Unlike prior threads, I will not be attempting to use any “120%” logic or “hysterical strength.” Going forward, let us just assume that All Might is using his full force punches like any normal person.
Despite this, by the time All Might brute forces through the Nomu’s absorption Quirk, the Nomu withstands over 300 punches before finally reaching its absorption limit. This, accurately, means that the Nomu could theoretically tank 305 blunt hits from a High 6-C character comparable to All Might, bare minimum, before its limit is reached. This in itself is naturally recognized.
The next part is not.
The Statement
When he finally defeats the Nomu, All Might comments on his power, comparing himself to his Prime. As shown in the initial set of pictures, his exact quote is as follows:
“Yep. I’m slowing down. In my heyday, five of those punches would’ve been enough. But that was over 300 hits just now.”
This is the crux of what many assume to be a 60x multiplier between All Might vs the Nomu and Prime All Might. A credible source (the main himself) is stating that, in order to overcome Nomu’s absorption, he needed over 300 hits. But I’m his Prime, he would only need 5 hits.
Naturally, this lends itself to video game logic.
The Nomu’s health bar can take over 300 hits from All Might before being depleted, but would only take 5 hits from Prime All Might. Putting this into an energy perspective, this would equate Prime All Might’s punches to, you guessed it, 60 times stronger than his weakened self.
Naturally, arguments can be raised against this multiplier for multiple reasons, and I admit to not knowing them all.
The point of this thread is, therefore, to bring up and explain all possible debunks or affirmations for this multiplier.
I will begin with a set of arguments I know might get brought up but that I find fault with.
Argument 1: Outlier
This is the most common argument that can be found with any multiplier. The logic of simply multiplying a characters strength by ANY amount can lead to inflated values that are not indicative of the actual character, or Verse’s, strength.
What I have issue with, however, is that the main proof of Outlier doesn’t really apply to Prime All Might. As far as we can tell, since we have yet to see anything suggesting otherwise, All Might in his Prime was the pinnacle of the verse in terms of physical might. His statistical advantage over others was how he became the Number One hero, and even in his climactic battle with All For One, his strength was so immense that be could crush the villains head into a bloody stain by the end of their fight.
Nothing actually points to Prime All Might being drastically stronger than other characters, even to an insane degree as 60x, as being “inconsistent.”
And in fact, the second argument I’ll be discussing actually affirms this logic.
Argument 2: Tomura Shigaraki
This is, in fact, the most important argument either FOR or AGAINST the multiplier being suggested.
Post Surgery Tomura Shigaraki is, by every account possible, the same as Prime All Might. His stats, each and every one of them, are stated equivalent to that of All Might’s in his prime.
Tomura Shigaraki is the same strength as Prime All Might.
He has the same durability as All Might
He has the same speed as Prime All Might
Shigaraki is the most perfect version of Prime All Might that we could ever get besides seeing the man himself.
As such, how does Shigaraki stack up if we slapped a 60x multiplier badge onto him? I’d say quite well.
DURABILITY
First up: Prime AM’s durability. This is the easiest and hardest to understand, as well as the main point for a potential 60x multiplier being thrown away.
Througout the entire fight with Tomura Shigaraki, the worlds strongest villain… he takes no damage. He absolutely, without any argument, takes completely minimal damage from the heroes. Until Bakugo undergoes a second Awakening, Shigaraki isn’t pressed in the slightest.
Allow me to repeat: Shigaraki does not take any true damage from any hero until Bakugo’s Second Awakening.
Against Bakugo’s Howitzer Impact: Cluster? The only damage he takes is burns, the force itself didn’t even move him.
Against Nejire’s blasts? He tanks them with no damage.
Against Suneater’s Plasma Cannon which INCLUDED Nejire’s blasts? He tanks it like it’s nothing and even mocks them about how he has All Might’s durability so that wouldn’t hurt him.
Mirko’s kicks? The same Mirko who can rip apart the bodies of Weakened AM characters with her kicks? He tanks them to the face and looks at her, asking “you’re that eager to get crunched?” even as her leg is still connected.
It is ONLY when Bakugo awakens and hits him in the face that Shigaraki claims he has taken any true damage whatsoever, and even then, he calls it a sting. In fact, it is only after internalizing “I just took damage” that Shigaraki, in his volatile, ever changing new body, begins to panic, which results in him “wobbling” after Mirko’s second kick to his face.
“What the…?! Did I just… stagger a little?! With this body?! That’s not possible, I haven’t felt real damage… No, wait… That last hit I took (referring to Second Awakening Bakugo)… that did… sting a little…”
After recognizing this, Shigaraki begins to stress himself out, begins to act afraid and even flinches back from Mirko’s determination. He even monologues on this further.
“Have I taken too much damage? No, none of its been that bad… I’m which case…When I panicked back there… was I… actually feeling threatens?! Me? Menaced by some background extra?!”
As shown in the final panel I posted, it’s stated the heroes “bested this form” due to his accumulated damage as well as stress. The actual “damage” portion, however, was inconsequential until Bakugo put that fear into him, especially considering his Quirks were suppressed by Erasure. His body’s strength is mental along with physical, especially due to the struggle between Shigaraki and AFO within.
This means that, durability wise, nothing that anyone did would have EVER done true damage to Shigaraki, and the only reason the damage began to “stack up” was because of Bakugo’s awakening putting fear into Shigaraki, enough fear that his body and mind freaked out. That they needed to evolve to compensate for his “perceived weakness.”
In a theoretical scenario where this is normal Prime All Might, and not a mentally damaged Shigaraki, no one would have survived. The damage, which Shigaraki claims is inconsequential and not real damage, would have been completely ignored by Prime AM. The only person to truly “hurt” him would be Bakugo’s Second Awakening, which has no scaling or pre-requisites on how strong it is. And even then, such a power was only regarded as a “sting” by Shigaraki.
To recap: Prime AM can take the most damage attacks and powerful hits from the strongest heroes around and it would not harm him. At best, their greatest, most powerful efforts (Plasma Cannon, Bakugo Howitzer Impact and Awakening) would cause him stings.
Durability being 60x them all? I can buy that, especially since many of them were increasing their power to do anything, which would have shortened the gap.
ATTACK POTENCY
This is very simple. Shigaraki brutalizes and one shots everyone.
There is not a single character that fought Shigaraki that could take a hit from him and survive. He can casually destroy their body parts, mangle their flesh, punch through their chests, overpower all of their efforts to stop him and even the mere air pressure of his attacks are enough to severely damage them.
In fact; the biggest argument against him being “out of this world stronger” is that when he ONE SHOTS them, they don’t die.
Here, after evolving to his new form, Shigaraki one shots every hero other than Best Jeanist and Mirio. Mirko and Tamaki get punched and go down instantly, and Nejire gets taken out just by Shigaraki throwing debris at her.
The argument is that “they didn’t get splattered therefore he can’t be that much stronger” which I actually find accurate. Given his track record of brutally mangling, dismembering, rending and tearing them apart, how could a direct punch to the face not just turn you to mush?
This backed up further by Mirko herself, someone weaker than the High Ends durability wise, NOT getting torn asunder in the same way a High End would. She should have looked exactly like a High End does after she kicks them, with a massive hole in her head or her entire top half punched away, but she somehow survives this enough to stand up shakily later. With everything set up, there are really only two options.
One: Shigaraki’s evolution lowered his attack power. Idk how accurate this would be, since every feat of strength from him outside of not killing these people is much more impressive than his prior feats. He can move all of UA with a jump, he causes massive debris with his punches, the whole nine yards, whereas before he mainly used his Growth fingers to attack and stuck to grappling and maiming people. So perhaps he is just weaker attack wise since his new form is based on “defense.”
Two: it’s simply PIS on how they lived. The same person that can tank all their attacks, laugh them off, rip through their chests and tear their arms off while being absurdly casual… can’t punch their heads off after getting even stronger and being bloodlusted? It doesn’t make any sense unless every time prior where he tore apart their bodies is ignored.
Either option, the main thing is the same: They do not scale to him. Sure, he didn’t splatter them across the ground, but he still one shot them. So regardless of beliefs, the running truth is that Prime All Might would also one shot every hero there. A single punch from him would logically rip through their chests and crush their hearts, similar to what happened with Bakugo.
Does that qualify for being 60x stronger? Idk, thats what the thread is for.
Note: It has been widely accepted that a 60x difference in strength is not enough to actually splatter someone, so that particular argument against his one shots is largely cut down.
CONCLUSION
Prime All Might is kinda tough.
The 60x multiplier has backing at the very least. It is not an idea with no merit nor is it as simple as claiming it an outlier. The best argumentation against it, I feel, are the logistics behind “Over 300 punches vs 5 punches.” The actual scaling and showings point to one truth: Prime All Might is unimaginably stronger than everyone else.
He could one shot them all, he can tank their strongest attacks with nothing more than scratches at best, and if he wishes, he could tear their bodies and limbs apart with the barest effort. He is the definitive top of the verse physically, and even his archenemy’s head was reduced to a stain against his might.
And so, this thread exists to debate and definitively decided once and for all: should we use a 60x multiplier or not.
If not, then we can finally move to have a discussion rule about it, since we have more than enough evidence now to pass a full blown judgment on such a thing, same as we did the Navel Laser.
VOTE 1: Validity of 60x multiplier
The options presented for the All Might vs Nomu statement are as follows:
1) Total Damage Limit
Shock Absorption operates like a “shield” that blocks all of All Might’s punches until the “shield” breaks (absorption limit met). In this scenario, the 60x multiplier is valid.
2) Per-Punch Limit
Shock Absorption operates like a “Defense Buff” that absorbs a certain amount of energy from All Might’s punches, up to a limit. When All Might goes “Plus Ultra” and begins to hit harder, that limit is exceeded allowing him to very slightly harm the Nomu. In this scenario, the 60x is invalid.
Note: Issues raised with this logic stem from the arbitrary “defense” given to the Nomu, which, when put to any degree of count, falls to easy manipulation over how much stronger 1 punch would be from another concerning Prime and Weakened All Might. It also creates a strange scenario wherein All Might could math out and equate the amount of force absorbed from his punches, and then compare that to his Prime, which in itself is incredibly strange given All Night’s character and knowledge. The “Per-Punch” argument is somewhat hard to qualify for these reasons. It is also problematic that this option doesn’t actually address or fix any of the problems present in the Total Energy option, and in fact introduces more of them from a scaling perspective. The inconsistency with feats vs statements also plagues this option in numerous ways, as though it removes the multiplier, it does not actually remove the issues still present without it.
Agree with 60x Multiplier validity (Nomu Absorption has total damage limit): 23 (ShigarakiShimura, DemonGodMitchAubin, TimmyTurnero, XSOULOFCINDERX, DaReaperMan, StorytellingDemonKing, Eseseso, Bruh, Mapl3Sy4up, Stryker861, Ayewale, Serlock_Holmes, Spinoirr, Grand_Astartes, BasedNecoScaler69, TheGodOfICE777, V999, Maverick_Zero_X, IdiosyncraticLawyer, CloverDragon03, HollowVanity, DarkDragonMedeus, Mazdoesstuff, )
Disagree with 60x multiplier (Nomu Absorption has per-punch limit): 5 (Damage3245, Qawsedf234, Metalballrun, Therefir, Mr_Bambu, )
Neutral: TheRustyOne,
VOTE 2: Usage of Two Heroes Graph
Something also brought up through discussion is this graph on All Might’s power from the Two Heroes movie.
This graph presents an alternative to using the 60x multiplier, as it shows All Might’s “Quirk numbers” during his weakest point (the fight with Nomu and beyond) to be around “3000 AP.” This is contrasted with his peak performance of slightly over “15,000 AP.” This lends us to believe that the difference between Prime and Weakened is 5x.
Usage of this graph is a topic that seems widely liked by members of the wiki, so this separate vote is present to show if, regardless of the 60x multiplier results, this graph should be accepted.
Agree with graph usage: Maitreya, Maverick_Zero_X, Spinoirr, Qawsedf234,
Disagree with graph Multiplier usage: Therefir,
Neutral: TheRustyOne,
Alright, so just like the Navel Laser, one of the most hotly debated MHA subjects needs to be put to bed officially.
All Might’s over 300 punches against the USJ Nomu.
This feat is quite infamous so I feel it needs no reintroduction, but I’m going to lay it down anyway.
The Feat
In order to save his students, Toshinori Yagi engages with the USJ Nomu, and finds that it’s special ability, alongside the baseline regeneration/physical stats that all of the perfected Nomu possess, is a Shock Absorption Quirk.
This Quirk operates on a set amount of damage: The Nomu can absorb any amount of blows until that set amount is reached.
This is shown several times with the Nomu being almost completely impervious to blunt force damage, even from All Might himself.
As counted here (even counting Deku’s 5% Smash), the Nomu withstands 5 hits before All Might’s punch rush begins. For these 5 hits, the Nomu is noticeably unmoved or even fazed, as the blows it takes are absorbed into its body.
When the actual rush and exchange of punches begins, All Might claims what we already know: thus Quirk is Absorption, not Negation. This means that the Nomu is accumulating the energy of these punches, and the more energy it takes, the closer he gets to breaking through. Knowing this, All Might decides to continue his attacks, constantly hitting the Nomu at, per Deku’s words, “over 100% of his power,” referring to All Mights “Plus Ultra” ability/Awakened Power.
Unlike prior threads, I will not be attempting to use any “120%” logic or “hysterical strength.” Going forward, let us just assume that All Might is using his full force punches like any normal person.
Despite this, by the time All Might brute forces through the Nomu’s absorption Quirk, the Nomu withstands over 300 punches before finally reaching its absorption limit. This, accurately, means that the Nomu could theoretically tank 305 blunt hits from a High 6-C character comparable to All Might, bare minimum, before its limit is reached. This in itself is naturally recognized.
The next part is not.
The Statement
When he finally defeats the Nomu, All Might comments on his power, comparing himself to his Prime. As shown in the initial set of pictures, his exact quote is as follows:
“Yep. I’m slowing down. In my heyday, five of those punches would’ve been enough. But that was over 300 hits just now.”
This is the crux of what many assume to be a 60x multiplier between All Might vs the Nomu and Prime All Might. A credible source (the main himself) is stating that, in order to overcome Nomu’s absorption, he needed over 300 hits. But I’m his Prime, he would only need 5 hits.
Naturally, this lends itself to video game logic.
The Nomu’s health bar can take over 300 hits from All Might before being depleted, but would only take 5 hits from Prime All Might. Putting this into an energy perspective, this would equate Prime All Might’s punches to, you guessed it, 60 times stronger than his weakened self.
Naturally, arguments can be raised against this multiplier for multiple reasons, and I admit to not knowing them all.
The point of this thread is, therefore, to bring up and explain all possible debunks or affirmations for this multiplier.
I will begin with a set of arguments I know might get brought up but that I find fault with.
Argument 1: Outlier
This is the most common argument that can be found with any multiplier. The logic of simply multiplying a characters strength by ANY amount can lead to inflated values that are not indicative of the actual character, or Verse’s, strength.
What I have issue with, however, is that the main proof of Outlier doesn’t really apply to Prime All Might. As far as we can tell, since we have yet to see anything suggesting otherwise, All Might in his Prime was the pinnacle of the verse in terms of physical might. His statistical advantage over others was how he became the Number One hero, and even in his climactic battle with All For One, his strength was so immense that be could crush the villains head into a bloody stain by the end of their fight.
Nothing actually points to Prime All Might being drastically stronger than other characters, even to an insane degree as 60x, as being “inconsistent.”
And in fact, the second argument I’ll be discussing actually affirms this logic.
Argument 2: Tomura Shigaraki
This is, in fact, the most important argument either FOR or AGAINST the multiplier being suggested.
Post Surgery Tomura Shigaraki is, by every account possible, the same as Prime All Might. His stats, each and every one of them, are stated equivalent to that of All Might’s in his prime.
Tomura Shigaraki is the same strength as Prime All Might.
He has the same durability as All Might
He has the same speed as Prime All Might
Shigaraki is the most perfect version of Prime All Might that we could ever get besides seeing the man himself.
As such, how does Shigaraki stack up if we slapped a 60x multiplier badge onto him? I’d say quite well.
DURABILITY
First up: Prime AM’s durability. This is the easiest and hardest to understand, as well as the main point for a potential 60x multiplier being thrown away.
Througout the entire fight with Tomura Shigaraki, the worlds strongest villain… he takes no damage. He absolutely, without any argument, takes completely minimal damage from the heroes. Until Bakugo undergoes a second Awakening, Shigaraki isn’t pressed in the slightest.
Allow me to repeat: Shigaraki does not take any true damage from any hero until Bakugo’s Second Awakening.
Against Bakugo’s Howitzer Impact: Cluster? The only damage he takes is burns, the force itself didn’t even move him.
Against Nejire’s blasts? He tanks them with no damage.
Against Suneater’s Plasma Cannon which INCLUDED Nejire’s blasts? He tanks it like it’s nothing and even mocks them about how he has All Might’s durability so that wouldn’t hurt him.
Mirko’s kicks? The same Mirko who can rip apart the bodies of Weakened AM characters with her kicks? He tanks them to the face and looks at her, asking “you’re that eager to get crunched?” even as her leg is still connected.
It is ONLY when Bakugo awakens and hits him in the face that Shigaraki claims he has taken any true damage whatsoever, and even then, he calls it a sting. In fact, it is only after internalizing “I just took damage” that Shigaraki, in his volatile, ever changing new body, begins to panic, which results in him “wobbling” after Mirko’s second kick to his face.
“What the…?! Did I just… stagger a little?! With this body?! That’s not possible, I haven’t felt real damage… No, wait… That last hit I took (referring to Second Awakening Bakugo)… that did… sting a little…”
After recognizing this, Shigaraki begins to stress himself out, begins to act afraid and even flinches back from Mirko’s determination. He even monologues on this further.
“Have I taken too much damage? No, none of its been that bad… I’m which case…When I panicked back there… was I… actually feeling threatens?! Me? Menaced by some background extra?!”
As shown in the final panel I posted, it’s stated the heroes “bested this form” due to his accumulated damage as well as stress. The actual “damage” portion, however, was inconsequential until Bakugo put that fear into him, especially considering his Quirks were suppressed by Erasure. His body’s strength is mental along with physical, especially due to the struggle between Shigaraki and AFO within.
This means that, durability wise, nothing that anyone did would have EVER done true damage to Shigaraki, and the only reason the damage began to “stack up” was because of Bakugo’s awakening putting fear into Shigaraki, enough fear that his body and mind freaked out. That they needed to evolve to compensate for his “perceived weakness.”
In a theoretical scenario where this is normal Prime All Might, and not a mentally damaged Shigaraki, no one would have survived. The damage, which Shigaraki claims is inconsequential and not real damage, would have been completely ignored by Prime AM. The only person to truly “hurt” him would be Bakugo’s Second Awakening, which has no scaling or pre-requisites on how strong it is. And even then, such a power was only regarded as a “sting” by Shigaraki.
To recap: Prime AM can take the most damage attacks and powerful hits from the strongest heroes around and it would not harm him. At best, their greatest, most powerful efforts (Plasma Cannon, Bakugo Howitzer Impact and Awakening) would cause him stings.
Durability being 60x them all? I can buy that, especially since many of them were increasing their power to do anything, which would have shortened the gap.
ATTACK POTENCY
This is very simple. Shigaraki brutalizes and one shots everyone.
There is not a single character that fought Shigaraki that could take a hit from him and survive. He can casually destroy their body parts, mangle their flesh, punch through their chests, overpower all of their efforts to stop him and even the mere air pressure of his attacks are enough to severely damage them.
In fact; the biggest argument against him being “out of this world stronger” is that when he ONE SHOTS them, they don’t die.
Here, after evolving to his new form, Shigaraki one shots every hero other than Best Jeanist and Mirio. Mirko and Tamaki get punched and go down instantly, and Nejire gets taken out just by Shigaraki throwing debris at her.
This backed up further by Mirko herself, someone weaker than the High Ends durability wise, NOT getting torn asunder in the same way a High End would. She should have looked exactly like a High End does after she kicks them, with a massive hole in her head or her entire top half punched away, but she somehow survives this enough to stand up shakily later. With everything set up, there are really only two options.
One: Shigaraki’s evolution lowered his attack power. Idk how accurate this would be, since every feat of strength from him outside of not killing these people is much more impressive than his prior feats. He can move all of UA with a jump, he causes massive debris with his punches, the whole nine yards, whereas before he mainly used his Growth fingers to attack and stuck to grappling and maiming people. So perhaps he is just weaker attack wise since his new form is based on “defense.”
Two: it’s simply PIS on how they lived. The same person that can tank all their attacks, laugh them off, rip through their chests and tear their arms off while being absurdly casual… can’t punch their heads off after getting even stronger and being bloodlusted? It doesn’t make any sense unless every time prior where he tore apart their bodies is ignored.
Either option, the main thing is the same: They do not scale to him. Sure, he didn’t splatter them across the ground, but he still one shot them. So regardless of beliefs, the running truth is that Prime All Might would also one shot every hero there. A single punch from him would logically rip through their chests and crush their hearts, similar to what happened with Bakugo.
Does that qualify for being 60x stronger? Idk, thats what the thread is for.
Note: It has been widely accepted that a 60x difference in strength is not enough to actually splatter someone, so that particular argument against his one shots is largely cut down.
CONCLUSION
Prime All Might is kinda tough.
The 60x multiplier has backing at the very least. It is not an idea with no merit nor is it as simple as claiming it an outlier. The best argumentation against it, I feel, are the logistics behind “Over 300 punches vs 5 punches.” The actual scaling and showings point to one truth: Prime All Might is unimaginably stronger than everyone else.
He could one shot them all, he can tank their strongest attacks with nothing more than scratches at best, and if he wishes, he could tear their bodies and limbs apart with the barest effort. He is the definitive top of the verse physically, and even his archenemy’s head was reduced to a stain against his might.
And so, this thread exists to debate and definitively decided once and for all: should we use a 60x multiplier or not.
If not, then we can finally move to have a discussion rule about it, since we have more than enough evidence now to pass a full blown judgment on such a thing, same as we did the Navel Laser.
VOTE 1: Validity of 60x multiplier
The options presented for the All Might vs Nomu statement are as follows:
1) Total Damage Limit
Shock Absorption operates like a “shield” that blocks all of All Might’s punches until the “shield” breaks (absorption limit met). In this scenario, the 60x multiplier is valid.
2) Per-Punch Limit
Shock Absorption operates like a “Defense Buff” that absorbs a certain amount of energy from All Might’s punches, up to a limit. When All Might goes “Plus Ultra” and begins to hit harder, that limit is exceeded allowing him to very slightly harm the Nomu. In this scenario, the 60x is invalid.
Note: Issues raised with this logic stem from the arbitrary “defense” given to the Nomu, which, when put to any degree of count, falls to easy manipulation over how much stronger 1 punch would be from another concerning Prime and Weakened All Might. It also creates a strange scenario wherein All Might could math out and equate the amount of force absorbed from his punches, and then compare that to his Prime, which in itself is incredibly strange given All Night’s character and knowledge. The “Per-Punch” argument is somewhat hard to qualify for these reasons. It is also problematic that this option doesn’t actually address or fix any of the problems present in the Total Energy option, and in fact introduces more of them from a scaling perspective. The inconsistency with feats vs statements also plagues this option in numerous ways, as though it removes the multiplier, it does not actually remove the issues still present without it.
Agree with 60x Multiplier validity (Nomu Absorption has total damage limit): 23 (ShigarakiShimura, DemonGodMitchAubin, TimmyTurnero, XSOULOFCINDERX, DaReaperMan, StorytellingDemonKing, Eseseso, Bruh, Mapl3Sy4up, Stryker861, Ayewale, Serlock_Holmes, Spinoirr, Grand_Astartes, BasedNecoScaler69, TheGodOfICE777, V999, Maverick_Zero_X, IdiosyncraticLawyer, CloverDragon03, HollowVanity, DarkDragonMedeus, Mazdoesstuff, )
Disagree with 60x multiplier (Nomu Absorption has per-punch limit): 5 (Damage3245, Qawsedf234, Metalballrun, Therefir, Mr_Bambu, )
Neutral: TheRustyOne,
VOTE 2: Usage of Two Heroes Graph
Something also brought up through discussion is this graph on All Might’s power from the Two Heroes movie.
This graph presents an alternative to using the 60x multiplier, as it shows All Might’s “Quirk numbers” during his weakest point (the fight with Nomu and beyond) to be around “3000 AP.” This is contrasted with his peak performance of slightly over “15,000 AP.” This lends us to believe that the difference between Prime and Weakened is 5x.
Usage of this graph is a topic that seems widely liked by members of the wiki, so this separate vote is present to show if, regardless of the 60x multiplier results, this graph should be accepted.
Agree with graph usage: Maitreya, Maverick_Zero_X, Spinoirr, Qawsedf234,
Disagree with graph Multiplier usage: Therefir,
Neutral: TheRustyOne,
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