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But it's like I said, the feat of Ichigo reacting to Butourenjin's is Mach 3000, not to mention that he had to activate his Hollowfication and deflect from the attack
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Bleach Bankai General Discussion 15
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Or jump out of the way, meaning Ichigo would had to decide to either deflect or dodge
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I calculated this and gave Mach 14000Ovy7 said:
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Gin is a liar, the databooks are trolling and lying as well about the speed and length!. It's all one big Kubo conspiracy.
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bua bua bua :´(Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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Ichigo reacting to Butourenjin
Eye = 29px = 0.023m
Panel = 403px
2atan (tan (35) (29/403)) = 3.90558344 degrees
This gives 0.333728m
Butourenji doubles the speed of the Bankai of Gin which is mach 500, ie mach 1000
Speed = 340000 m / s
Time
T = 0.33728 / 340000
T = 0.000000992 seconds
However, Ichigo was able to activate his Hollowfication and deflect from the attack, I will consider that he moved 2 meters.
Velocity
V = 2 / 0.000000992
V = 2016129.03 m / s or Mach 5929 (Massively Hypersonic +)
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Eye = 29px = 0.023m
Panel = 403px
2atan (tan (35) (29/403)) = 3.90558344 degrees
This gives 0.333728m
Butourenji doubles the speed of the Bankai of Gin which is mach 500, ie mach 1000
Speed = 340000 m / s
Time
T = 0.33728 / 340000
T = 0.000000992 seconds
However, Ichigo was able to activate his Hollowfication and deflect from the attack, I will consider that he moved 2 meters.
Velocity
V = 2 / 0.000000992
V = 2016129.03 m / s or Mach 5929 (Massively Hypersonic +)
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This needs to be discussed as well as the quote from Ichigo moving at the speed of a Lightning Bolt. Both would be Massively Hypersonic +
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Even with Aim dodging it's impressive
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Yes, but here the Bankai is already in motion and Ichigo is practicing stopped and watching this came to him. In the next scene Ichigo is with Hollowfication and without any scratch.
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It makes no sense.
The attack was already in motion and Ichigo was stopped until then, in the next scene he is without any scratch and with the hollow mask, I think it is very simple to understand what happened here.
The attack was already in motion and Ichigo was stopped until then, in the next scene he is without any scratch and with the hollow mask, I think it is very simple to understand what happened here.
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Ichigo definitely didn't tank the attack with no injuries with his mask. The attack was ripping him apart with the regular Bankai and Buto Renjin's AP is a literal order of magnitude higher than the regular Bankai strike. He would have to dodge if he came out unscathed unless we're saying Hollowfication increases his stats by over 10.
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Bankai multipliers accepted when? ovo
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Are the bankai multipliers for AP and speed, or just AP?
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Depends on the Bankai, I think.Wrath Of Itachi said:
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Depends on the Bankai, I think.
Not all get an AP, durability or speed upgrade from it.
Gin's Buto Renjin already has an accepted multiplier though which is why his profile has a 6-C key with it.
Not all get an AP, durability or speed upgrade from it.
Gin's Buto Renjin already has an accepted multiplier though which is why his profile has a 6-C key with it.
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@Imade
Bankai Gin mach 500 is accepted here or not?
Bankai Gin mach 500 is accepted here or not?
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Aim Dodging refers to the technique of avoiding linear attacks by re-positioning oneself away from the path of the attack before it is fired.
> Gin goes into stance.
> Ichigo says what.
> Gin says Buto.
> Projectile is fired and Ichigo dodges.
> Retracts instantly.
> Gin goes into stance.
> Ichigo says what.
> Gin says Buto.
> Projectile is fired and Ichigo dodges.
> Retracts instantly.
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Also, Ichigo clearly isn't keeping up with its speed - he has a moment of realization where he sees that the blade has already been retracted, meaning he couldn't see it contract back into its short form.
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That could easily mean it's retraction speed is faster instead of Ichigo not being able to keep up.Damage3245 said:
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> Isn't keeping up with the speed
Ichigo dodged the Buto technique after getting used to it and Gin's attempts to decieve him, even Gin states this. The point is this isn't aim-dodging. You can't say he didn't react to it when he does. He reacted to the expansio which is 8 miles in order to dodge it.
Ichigo dodged the Buto technique after getting used to it and Gin's attempts to decieve him, even Gin states this. The point is this isn't aim-dodging. You can't say he didn't react to it when he does. He reacted to the expansio which is 8 miles in order to dodge it.
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After that he tries to keep up with Gin to the best of his ability, and there's another time when Ichigo does block it
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It's literally shown that the retraction of Kamishini no Yari is far faster than its expansion rate
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> Gin goes into stance.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:Aim Dodging refers to the technique of avoiding linear attacks by re-positioning oneself away from the path of the attack before it is fired.
> Ichigo says what.
> Gin says Buto.
> Projectile is fired and Ichigo dodges.
> Retracts instantly.
Realize Ichigo's eye, he is looking at Kamishini at Yari, then he turns his gaze to Gin and then he shoots again.
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Why would the retraction be far faster than the expansion? Isn't it the same ability of turning to dust and changing shape? Why would one be faster than the other?Dangai Ichigo said:
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I don't know it just is
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Ichigo was only dodging due to not letting Gin point the tip of his zanpakuto at him
furthermore he couldn't even process the sword retracting which should be the same speed as its expansion
not only that but ichigo was visibly damaged from butou renjin, which is more proof that he actually took the attack but got his mask off in time
Even if mach 1000 gin was accepted i doubt it'd scale to Ichigo
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It would scale to Hollow Mask Ichigo though
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Ichigo was dodging Kamishini No Yari multiple times. Even when he 1st saw Buto, he dodged it without a problem, he only never noticed it contracting.
not only that but ichigo was visibly damaged from butou renjin, which is more proof that he actually took the attack but got his mask off in time
No he wasnt, he was already damaged from beforehand.
not only that but ichigo was visibly damaged from butou renjin, which is more proof that he actually took the attack but got his mask off in time
No he wasnt, he was already damaged from beforehand.
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